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Old 06-05-2023, 09:51 AM   #1
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Trinity Bible is one of the most prominent churches in a fundamentalist Christian movement that has gained momentum in Canada, initially by challenging pandemic public health restrictions.

This movement is now increasingly involved in electoral politics, advocating for conservative social and political policies based on literal interpretations of the Bible.

Liberty Coalition Canada, a conservative Christian advocacy group, is trying to raise $1.3 million to recruit hundreds of Christian politicians and campaign staff to run at all levels of government.

In a document marked "please keep classified" that was obtained by CBC News, the group says its ultimate goal is "the most powerful political disruption in Canadian history."
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"Over the next few years, I want to systematically manufacture 10,000 new Christian political candidates across Canada," says the document, which was written by Michael Clark, director of advocacy for the Liberty Coalition.

Clark also writes that he wants to align Canada's laws with "biblical principles."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates...793677?cmp=rss


Make no mistake, this is a real threat to our society and way of life. What can you do about it? Shine light on it. Stop attending churches that proliferate these ideals. Stop voting for political parties that allow them to have power(yes, that means the UCP and CPC). You can follow your rules in your own little club, they are not to be foisted upon a free society.

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Old 06-05-2023, 09:55 AM   #2
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:56 AM   #3
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saw the thread title... thought me and a bunch of fascists were taking over


my first order of business... remove all things 'oilers' from the country
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Is this something new? Hasn't the religious right always been heavily involved in politics and made every effort to have their guys in power.
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Is this something new? Hasn't the religious right always been heavily involved in politics and made every effort to have their guys in power.
They are getting more motivated and organized. They already have a giant success story in Alberta. That's a huge boost, and is in danger of expanding. Ignore this at our peril. Unless you want to be like Gilead, err, the US.
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Dont be such a conspiracy theorist Fuzz. its fine.
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Dont be such a conspiracy theorist Fuzz. its fine.
Firstly, it's not a conspiracy. It's an organized group with clearly stated intentions.

Secondly, would you be 'fine' with it, if instead of fundamentalist Christians, it was fundamentalist Muslims?
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With corporate interests and military intelligence working around the clock, they're going to find it's a pretty crowded space.
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Old 06-05-2023, 10:44 AM   #9
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Jeebus, that thread title reads like something written by a first year college student.

Special interest groups looking to influence politics to be more in line with their special interests? Well I never. I'm sure they'll go far with that whopping $1.3M...that they haven't even raised yet.

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I mean the extreme left is doing the same thing to push their narrative, no real surprise the right has seen the success (Soros, etc) and wants to emulate it. Seeing it as a threat to free society depends on your views. I'd argue the right sees the "crazy left" as just as much of a threat to society as the left does this.

In reality, the only true threat to society is the tribalization of politics & its creep into daily life. Hyperbolic posts like this demonizing certain political views only exacerbates the political divide & warmongering that is hurting society.
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I mean the extreme left is doing the same thing to push their narrative, no real surprise the right has seen the success (Soros, etc) and wants to emulate it. Seeing it as a threat to free society depends on your views. I'd argue the right sees the "crazy left" as just as much of a threat to society as the left does this.

In reality, the only true threat to society is the tribalization of politics & its creep into daily life. Hyperbolic posts like this demonizing certain political views only exacerbates the political divide & warmongering that is hurting society.
What's theHyperbolic part? Are they not Christofacists? Are they not already achieving some of their goals? Like, you need look no further than the US over the past few years, where Chistofacists are imposing heir will all over the place through the means described in this article. Should we just wait until they've removed all of our rights before it is an issue?


Also, the "both sides" argument of this is ####ing ridiculous and you should feel ashamed for even mentioning it.
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I mean the extreme left is doing the same thing to push their narrative, no real surprise the right has seen the success (Soros, etc) and wants to emulate it. Seeing it as a threat to free society depends on your views. I'd argue the right sees the "crazy left" as just as much of a threat to society as the left does this.

In reality, the only true threat to society is the tribalization of politics & its creep into daily life. Hyperbolic posts like this demonizing certain political views only exacerbates the political divide & warmongering that is hurting society.
I agree that extreme left ideologies are threatening some folks lively hoods, but that is still a degree lower than evangelicals threatening the personal safety of LGBTQ folks. While it feels like ancient history, it was only 53 years ago that forced sterilization was targeting the queer community.
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I mean the extreme left is doing the same thing to push their narrative, no real surprise the right has seen the success (Soros, etc) and wants to emulate it. Seeing it as a threat to free society depends on your views. I'd argue the right sees the "crazy left" as just as much of a threat to society as the left does this.

In reality, the only true threat to society is the tribalization of politics & its creep into daily life. Hyperbolic posts like this demonizing certain political views only exacerbates the political divide & warmongering that is hurting society.
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More like a push back to normal from all the woke crazies the last decade
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More like a push back to normal from all the woke crazies the last decade
I am really keen to hear your definition of normal.
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They are getting more motivated and organized. They already have a giant success story in Alberta. That's a huge boost, and is in danger of expanding. Ignore this at our peril. Unless you want to be like Gilead, err, the US.
I dunno. Are you forgetting about how Stockwelll Day and Stephen Harper got into a beef, because day was too religious.

Harper was an evangelist who wanted to re-open the same-sex marriage debate...and he was considered the moderate option. Meanwhile Day wanted to ban teaching evolution in the classroom.

The religious right promoting religious candidates seems pretty par for the course.
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Firstly, it's not a conspiracy. It's an organized group with clearly stated intentions.

Secondly, would you be 'fine' with it, if instead of fundamentalist Christians, it was fundamentalist Muslims?
"Conspiracy" literally means a group of people acting in harmony towards a common end. So it is a conspiracy. Is it just a "theory" though. No. As others have stated, special interest groups pushing agendas is totally common place in politics. It's a conspiracy that most certainly is happening.

I don't think anyone here is "fine" with what's going on, just acknowledging that it isn't something new.
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Are they not Christofacists?
I mean, that's not a real word, so at minimum I think it would need a definition. Dictionary definition of fascists is:

"A fascist is someone who supports or promotes fascism—a system of government led by a dictator who typically rules by forcefully and often violently suppressing opposition and criticism, controlling all industry and commerce, and promoting nationalism and often racism."

The group you're referring to is trying to raise money to support/run candidates in elections and plans to use those candidates to promote their views on a variety of issues. That's literally the same as every political party/political group ever.

Are you suggesting they're planning to subvert democracy and install a dictatorship? Control all industry and commerce? Violently suppress opposition? None of those things are supported by the article/the groups internal documents obtained by CBC.

Because basically it sounds like there's a group of people whose ideas you disagree with who are planning to run candidates in elections that you've decided to label fascists.

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More like a push back to normal from all the woke crazies the last decade
Define "woke".
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