MF YYC Politics - there, I mega did it

[Slava]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

No objection to the money up front, but the proportionality is absurd.

This is like if the city's loan program for solar panels required homeowners to repay only 40% of the total install cost. But of course homeowners get to keep 100% of the electricity generated. Oh, and whenever the solar panels are no longer useful, the city will bear the cost of removing them. Sweet!




Paging Slava, to the white courtesy phone.

What do you want me to say? If you're going by my comments in the Provincial politics thread, you know I'm against this.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Slava

What do you want me to say? If you're going by my comments in the Provincial politics thread, you know I'm against this.

Just looking for a primer on the paramount importance of distinguishing OPEX vs CAPEX.

but really I'm just being a weird stalker or something.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Just looking for a primer on the paramount importance of distinguishing OPEX vs CAPEX.

but really I'm just being a weird stalker or something.

I can only assume that the Flames didn't have any interest in discussing things with the city, so they had to sweeten the pot continually until they could get them back to the table.

[Faust]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Wasn't Councillor Sharp in charge of heading the YYC Council on this one?

Dominic Terry @DomenicJTerry

“So we’re gonna get facts about where we’re at and facts about where we’re going,” said Sharp.

As the chair of the city’s event centre committee, I would expect Councillor Sharp to know all of these facts, and not to get them tomorrow. #yyccc

https://twitter.com/dominicjterry/st...039697410?s=21


Stephen Carter @carter_AB

Councillor Sharp has created this mess as chair of the committee.

And now we are watching her, in real time, walk back her own deal.

Worst deal in Calgary history.

Perhaps the worst arena deal ever, anywhere.

https://twitter.com/carter_ab/status...706833920?s=21

[Faust]

Romy @RomyYYC

Given Calgary arena news this morning, just want to remind everyone that this arena deal is the biggest indoor arena subsidy, ever.

We like to be mavericks, but that's not a record we want to break. #yyccc

https://twitter.com/romyyyc/status/1...904051713?s=21


@RomyYYC
Neil deMause has been tracking professional sports arena/stadium deals for the last 25 years, so for Calgary Flames arena to be dubbed the "largest arena subsidy ever getting initial approval" is pretty damning.

https://twitter.com/romyyyc/status/1...393997831?s=21

[iggy_oi]

We’re number 1!!!
We’re number 1!!!
We’re number 1!!!

[powderjunkie]

I’m sure it’ll get better with the next batch of details though…

[Scornfire]

I bet we could get an NFL team if we capitulate to corporate interests even harder!

Heck, scrap the schooling budget and aim for the NBA too!

[woob]

I expected this from the UCP, but how did the entire city council agree to push this through? Did they only get minimal info? Was the vote on a small part of the deal, without any reference to the actual entire thing?

[White Out 403]

I'm so glad that I won't have to pay into this corporate welfare. There's something really egregious and disgusting about giving this kind of welfare to billionaires. I'm sure there's a word for this level of greasiness but I just can't find it

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

I'm so glad that I won't have to pay into this corporate welfare. There's something really egregious and disgusting about giving this kind of welfare to billionaires. I'm sure there's a word for this level of greasiness but I just can't find it

You'll be paying for it, no worries. You see, Alberta pays transfer money directly from our pockets into the Nova Scotia money bin, and our pockets will be lighter which means your money bin is going to be less overflowing, so your taxes will have to go up. Facts.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

No objection to the money up front, but the proportionality is absurd.

This is like if the city's loan program for solar panels required homeowners to repay only 40% of the total install cost. But of course homeowners get to keep 100% of the electricity generated. Oh, and whenever the solar panels are no longer useful, the city will bear the cost of removing them. Sweet!




Paging Slava, to the white courtesy phone.

Totally agree the deal is bad. Just not as bad as the Farkas tweet or Herald article paint it as.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You'll be paying for it, no worries. You see, Alberta pays transfer money directly from our pockets into the Nova Scotia money bin, and our pockets will be lighter which means your money bin is going to be less overflowing, so your taxes will have to go up. Facts.

[Faust]

Calgary city council scraps recommendations from housing task force:

https://livewirecalgary.com/2023/06/...ng-task-force/

[Fuzz]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1666239958036922370

[Bigtime]

They can spin all they want but this is an extremely bad look after greenlighting the arena deal.

Apparently they got scared by the proposal of R-CG everywhere.

[Lubicon]

So we're keeping the same number of Councilors (14) as there were in 1976 when when the population was 1/3 what it is now. Good call? Bad call? Do we need more? Or just redistribute the ward boundaries as necessary.

14 seems about right to me as a number, that's about one councilor per 100 000 people. But that also puts it well below the numbers we have for provincial and federal ridings.

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/proposal-...tion-1.6430583

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

So we're keeping the same number of Councilors (14) as there were in 1976 when when the population was 1/3 what it is now. Good call? Bad call? Do we need more? Or just redistribute the ward boundaries as necessary.

14 seems about right to me as a number, that's about one councilor per 100 000 people. But that also puts it well below the numbers we have for provincial and federal ridings.

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/proposal-...tion-1.6430583

Somewhat serious question. If we cut that number to like 5, would see any difference as citizens?

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Apparently they got scared by the proposal of R-CG everywhere.

More property rights for property owners is scary stuff.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Slava

Somewhat serious question. If we cut that number to like 5, would see any difference as citizens?

It would if one of the 5 was Sean Chu.