02-25-2021, 01:10 PM
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#7721
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GOAT!
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Originally Posted by Rick M.
I liked him when he played major junior in Charlottetown.
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Yeah me too. I liked him when he played m... wait, who is this guy?
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02-25-2021, 01:25 PM
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#7722
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Meh,
we have now seen Valimaki in the NHL. I am very comfortable saying that non-trade was a total loss by Tre. Valimaki will never have a measurable impact on an NHL game to the same extent as Mark Stone.
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Missing out on trading Valimaki for a couple months of Stone is not a loss. He wasn't going to sign here.
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02-25-2021, 01:31 PM
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#7723
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Meh,
we have now seen Valimaki in the NHL. I am very comfortable saying that non-trade was a total loss by Tre. Valimaki will never have a measurable impact on an NHL game to the same extent as Mark Stone.
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So you’d rather have 20 games of Stone and MAYBE a playoff round win instead of an LD with top pairing potential, who also can give us more years of making it past round 1 (and then some)? Stone would’ve been a fantastic add, but I don’t think he was the difference of pushing us past the red hot Avs.
Stone was never going to sign here. And if he did, then one of our core members are on a different team.
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02-25-2021, 01:39 PM
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#7724
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley
No, but that's also subjective depending on what return we're talking about. After being so close on Stone, Kadri (not Tre's fault here of course), Hall, Anderson, Dubois...I feel like something could have been done even if it meant Valimaki.
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You state that we were "so close". What is this based on?
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02-25-2021, 01:39 PM
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#7725
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Meh,
we have now seen Valimaki in the NHL. I am very comfortable saying that non-trade was a total loss by Tre. Valimaki will never have a measurable impact on an NHL game to the same extent as Mark Stone.
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Based on a very small number of games after the player had a serious injury and extended time off?
I'll say this. Valimaki is a future top pairing dman for the Flames.
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02-25-2021, 01:40 PM
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#7726
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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^^ TBF didn't Maloney say they went to bed the night before Stone was dealt to Vegas "thinking they had a deal"
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02-25-2021, 01:44 PM
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#7727
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by Toonage
^^ TBF didn't Maloney say they went to bed the night before Stone was dealt to Vegas "thinking they had a deal"
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I think so. I think the deal changes when Vegas called Ottawa and offered Brandstrom. Which then had Ottawa upping the bid from Calgary.
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02-25-2021, 01:45 PM
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#7728
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
So you’d rather have 20 games of Stone and MAYBE a playoff round win instead of an LD with top pairing potential, who also can give us more years of making it past round 1 (and then some)? Stone would’ve been a fantastic add, but I don’t think he was the difference of pushing us past the red hot Avs.
Stone was never going to sign here. And if he did, then one of our core members are on a different team.
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Stone signed for $9.5 for 8 years (to age 34) in Vegas. There is no personal state income tax in NV and the federal tax is 37% assuming no loopholes or shelters. The federal and provincial taxes here are 10% higher. He loses about a million bucks in very round numbers by signing the same contract here. So you'd have to pay him $1.5 or something like that to make up for the difference. And even then you'd have to convince him Calgary's better than Vegas to play in, or else pay even more to change his mind.
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02-25-2021, 01:50 PM
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#7729
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Meh,
we have now seen Valimaki in the NHL. I am very comfortable saying that non-trade was a total loss by Tre. Valimaki will never have a measurable impact on an NHL game to the same extent as Mark Stone.
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Sorry, but that is ridiculous - you can't know that.
Valimaki may be a top pairing defenseman one day. And he may not.
At a minimum though, he is going to be a Flame for many years. And he is cost controlled for the first several years. So there is lots of value there.
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02-25-2021, 05:04 PM
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#7730
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Franchise Player
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Jack Eichel scratched tonight.
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02-25-2021, 05:05 PM
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#7731
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
Jack Eichel scratched tonight.
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Time for a trade. Bye bye Monahan.
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02-25-2021, 05:07 PM
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#7732
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Franchise Player
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lol sadly Monahan will not be the centerpiece. Lindholm getting scratched would raise my eyebrows.
My guess is lingering injury for Eichel. Nice and boring
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02-25-2021, 05:07 PM
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#7733
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2019
Exp: 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burning Beard
Time for a trade. Bye bye Monahan.
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Fingers crossed... 
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02-25-2021, 05:10 PM
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#7734
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Jack Eichel scratched tonight.
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My pool!!!
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02-25-2021, 05:14 PM
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#7735
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
lol sadly Monahan will not be the centerpiece. Lindholm getting scratched would raise my eyebrows.
My guess is lingering injury for Eichel. Nice and boring
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Yep. Lower body injury. He went out to warm up but decided it was too bad to play.
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02-25-2021, 05:28 PM
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#7736
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First Line Centre
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02-25-2021, 05:36 PM
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#7737
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Wrong thread
Last edited by CroCop; 02-25-2021 at 06:18 PM.
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02-25-2021, 05:37 PM
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#7738
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Meh,
we have now seen Valimaki in the NHL. I am very comfortable saying that non-trade was a total loss by Tre. Valimaki will never have a measurable impact on an NHL game to the same extent as Mark Stone.
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Did Andersson light the world on fire in his first 50 NHL games?
Did Gio?
Comments like this piss me off to no end.
They also make me realize how there are some on this forum that have no clue.
If you were actually paying attention you would see so many positive signs in Valimaki’s game that make one think he might end up being the most talented dmen we have.
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02-25-2021, 05:54 PM
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#7739
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Uncle Chester
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Matthias Ekholm for Sean Monahan.
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02-25-2021, 06:36 PM
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#7740
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Was Eichel seriously scratched? Like, healthy scratched? Crazy
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