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Old 01-25-2021, 08:45 AM   #161
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Lots of Leaf fans think Tkachuk purposely kneed Campbell in the back of the head when going down at the end of the game. I'll say the way he pulls the knee back does seem a little strange. What say you Flames fans?

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Old 01-25-2021, 08:49 AM   #162
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It was an obvious knee but didn't appear to have much of an impact. Ref saw it clearly and didn't react. Total non-issue as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:23 AM   #163
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Is the some kind of Flames Jedi mind trick?

There's nothing to see here. Watch Monahan in the middle. He is the one you're looking for.
His stick pitchforks Tkachuk's leg. That's why his knee rises like that as he's falling.
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:25 AM   #164
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Is it my poor recollection or is the shot of Campbell struggling from before the dogpile? IIRC he was hurt a play or two before then.
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:27 AM   #165
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Lots of Leaf fans think Tkachuk purposely kneed Campbell in the back of the head when going down at the end of the game. I'll say the way he pulls the knee back does seem a little strange. What say you Flames fans?

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Optically it doesn't look the best and I get why Leafs fans are mad but by the way that fan base is acting you would think Tkachuk took out a gun and shot him on the ice.

IMO the super slow motion video actually shows what's happening. Brodie gets tangled up underneath Tkachuks feet, and Tkachuk's right leg actually crosses over and wraps around his left leg.

He then picks that leg up to avoid rolling it over, and I think he's actually trying to not step on Campbell which would have probably been a much worse outcome.

The visuals look bad but it all happens in a millisecond in real time and it was probably a bit accidentally on purpose but don't think he's trying to hurt him there.
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:29 AM   #166
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Is it my poor recollection or is the shot of Campbell struggling from before the dogpile? IIRC he was hurt a play or two before then.
Yes, he hurt his leg or maybe his groin.
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:30 AM   #167
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Yes, he hurt his leg or maybe his groin.
Right. I’m wondering is if the shot of him in this little clip was rearranged. I could be wrong.
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:36 AM   #168
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Right. I’m wondering is if the shot of him in this little clip was rearranged. I could be wrong.
It was after he was hurt. Which would make the Tkachuk haters even more mad thinking that the "vicious intentional knee" was why he was hurt.
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:53 AM   #169
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I dont dislike Lucic, but IMO he's the reason we lost. Bad turnover led to a goal against, bad penalty led to a goal against, and that's all he contributed. Not to mention the momentum he kills. He's using the rare combo of dumb AND slow right now, thats brutal in the NHL.

Can't keep playing him if that's the result. Just one game, but again we lost because of him.
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With the strange season, playing these teams 10 times each and the hate that will build, Tkachuk is going to draw more penalties than he ever has this year.

When we were down 3-2, I watched him go out of his way and skate all the way from across the ice to the benches to target and nail Simmons as he was about to change. It was quite obvious he was trying to rile him up to get another PP going.

He really is a super pest and hes damn good at it. He wants that target on his back.
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I dont dislike Lucic, but IMO he's the reason we lost. Bad turnover led to a goal against, bad penalty led to a goal against, and that's all he contributed. Not to mention the momentum he kills. He's using the rare combo of dumb AND slow right now, thats brutal in the NHL.

Can't keep playing him if that's the result. Just one game, but again we lost because of him.
He was directly responsible for the momentum change in the WPG game as well.

I don't hate him either, and I don't like piling on players, but he hasn't just had a slow start, he is costing the team games right now.
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Old 01-25-2021, 10:09 AM   #172
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With the strange season, playing these teams 10 times each and the hate that will build, Tkachuk is going to draw more penalties than he ever has this year.

When we were down 3-2, I watched him go out of his way and skate all the way from across the ice to the benches to target and nail Simmons as he was about to change. It was quite obvious he was trying to rile him up to get another PP going.

He really is a super pest and hes damn good at it. He wants that target on his back.
Yeah he is all over the ice trying to get the other teams riled up already. We finally have a super pest and I am loving it.

As a fan base we need to embrace this. One game against the Leafs this year and the media and fans out there are already calling for suspensions or Simmonds to retaliate. Tkachuk loves putting that laser focus on himself and seeing the same teams for 9 or 10 games each he is going to become public enemy number one in Canada.

I hate seeing Flames fans apologize on Reddit or wherever for Tkachuk. We need to be happy the pest is on our team for a change.

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Old 01-25-2021, 10:18 AM   #173
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Is it my poor recollection or is the shot of Campbell struggling from before the dogpile? IIRC he was hurt a play or two before then.
He was...that is a deep fake video and Leaf fans are idiots

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This isn’t even a conversation if it’s not Tkachuk. The media just so badly wants a storyline for the Leafs that they’ll spin it into a controversy. Nothing to see here. Move on.
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"I don't look at him as a menace, I look at him as a really good hockey player."
Gotta love Jack Campbell. Seems like a great guy.

Just last week, Campbell wanted to shake Stützle's hand after Stützle scored his first goal on Campbell.
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Old 01-25-2021, 10:51 AM   #176
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This isn’t even a conversation if it’s not Tkachuk. The media just so badly wants a storyline for the Leafs that they’ll spin it into a controversy. Nothing to see here. Move on.

Exactly.

Something to talk about other than that the Leafs had to *gasp* ... travel

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Old 01-25-2021, 10:52 AM   #177
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I thought it was definitely greasy of Tkachuk, but calling for a suspension is laughable. You see these things happen all the time. Having said that, I would be fine if the NHL starts handing out penalties for that kind of thing, as long as they are consistent. There really isn't a need for those antics and getting it out of the game would be good IMO.

It's worth mentioning that Campbell was injured before any of that happened, so it's not like Tkachuk contributed to that. I think Campbell was actually being selfish for refusing to pull himself when he was clearly struggling. Tkachuk was just trying to make him frustrated on top of that.
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Honest question, I know Brett Ritchie isn't great but at this point would he not fit better than Lucic? Essentially plays the same role (outside of Lucic's weird PP usage, which Bennett could take) and his being in the lineup as a RHS means a guy like Bennett goes back to his natural wing.

Sure, a young player like Phillips or Gawdin would be better received by the fanbase, but its pretty clear management/coaches want the Lucic style of player in that lineup night in and night out.
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would rather see Pelletier
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Cant argue that but if we accept that this is the kind of player they want in the lineup, and we have no choice but to accept it, is he the best option?
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