The Democratic Presidential Nomination 2020

[troutman]

Trump's win in 2016 required a perfect storm of circumstances for him to get a narrow Electoral College victory. Rachel Bitecofer: "Trump’s 2016 path to the White House, which was the political equivalent of getting dealt a Royal Flush in poker, is probably not replicable in 2020 with an agitated Democratic electorate". @RachelBitecofer

The mid-term results suggest it will be difficult for Trump to pull this off again (possible, but not certain, or even likely). Maybe most important for the Dems is who is added on the ticket for VP. A person of color might be enough to bring out enough Dem voters (Castro, Harris, Booker, Abrams).

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...vice-president

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by troutman

The mid-term results suggest it will be difficult for Trump to pull this off again (possible, but not certain, or even likely). Maybe most important for the Dems is who is added on the ticket for VP. A person of color might be enough to bring out enough Dem voters (Castro, Harris, Booker, Abrams).

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...vice-president

This is an interesting point.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by troutman

Trump's win in 2016 required a perfect storm of circumstances for him to get a narrow Electoral College victory. Rachel Bitecofer: "Trump’s 2016 path to the White House, which was the political equivalent of getting dealt a Royal Flush in poker, is probably not replicable in 2020 with an agitated Democratic electorate". @RachelBitecofer

The mid-term results suggest it will be difficult for Trump to pull this off again (possible, but not certain, or even likely). Maybe most important for the Dems is who is added on the ticket for VP. A person of color might be enough to bring out enough Dem voters (Castro, Harris, Booker, Abrams).

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...vice-president

Only if Bloomberg doesn't run third party. Then all bets are off because of vote splitting.

[GirlySports]

I wouldn't pick a person of color to get that vote. People are smarter than that.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by troutman

The mid-term results suggest it will be difficult for Trump to pull this off again (possible, but not certain, or even likely). Maybe most important for the Dems is who is added on the ticket for VP. A person of color might be enough to bring out enough Dem voters (Castro, Harris, Booker, Abrams).

I'm not sure why you'd think this. It's not like black voters will be going to the polls in droves to try to elect a black VP. That happened for Obama because he was the first, and because of his charisma, but I have no reason to think there will be some groundswell of energy for the bottom of the ticket at this stage.

Moreover, the theory that people will vote for people who look like them has totally collapsed in this process. When it started, there was a lot of talk in the punditry about who would secure the African-American support - would it be Harris or Booker? Turns out it was neither, and most of that support went to the old white guys. A similar case could be made for the suggestion that young people would vote for Pete because Pete is young. Nope, they all want to vote for the 70 year olds.

[FlameOn]

Looks like Bloomberg is going to try to spend his way out of last night. He just released edited video making it look like he won the debate with a real zinger. Looks pretty pathetic and desperate to anyone paying attention.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1230515129877434368
https://theweek.com/speedreads/89704...-like-did-well

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Looks like Bloomberg is going to try to spend his way out of last night. He just released edited video making it look like he won the debate with a real zinger. Looks pretty pathetic and desperate to anyone paying attention.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1230515129877434368
https://theweek.com/speedreads/89704...-like-did-well

Bahahaha is this real life!?!?

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Bahahaha is this real life!?!?

Probably sounded better in his head.

[FlameOn]

Harvard Poli Scientists suggests Bloomberg may just pay his way out of his bad debate performance and choose to skip future debates... lol

"Trump has shown his talent to bully and intimidate," Enos explained. "Bloomberg cast himself as a tough New Yorker who will handle Trump. His performance last night cast serious doubt on that claim.

"Bloomberg might decide just to stay out of the debates in the future," Enos said. "His opponents need the free advertising that debates provide, he does not. In that sense, his wounds were self inflicted and he might not make that mistake again."

Enos added Bloomberg—who officially enters the running on March 3 for Super Tuesday—"looked truly awful and unprepared for attacks that were obviously coming."

The billionaire former New York mayor came into the debate after multiple revelations about past racist and misogynistic comments, including questions regarding non-disclosure agreements signed by female employees at his company who alleged sexism and misogynistic behavior.

https://www.newsweek.com/mike-bloomb...nevada-1488273

[GirlySports]

Bloomberg lost when he started apologizing. He is a very popular NY Mayor and should defend his record as such.

That's the difference with Trump. Trump will defend his actions, good or bad.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Bloomberg lost when he started apologizing. He is a very popular NY Mayor and should defend his record as such.

That's the difference with Trump. Trump will defend his actions, good or bad.

That's because Republicans eat that #### up. For some reason never changing your opinion or regretting your actions upon gaining new information or examining outcomes is a virtue in right-wing circles.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

Last I checked, Albertans wanted a big oil pipeline to stimulate their economy. What's the plan to move to renewables there?

Can't sell Alberta sunshine or wind elsewhere, but you sure can sell oil to other people.

[HockeyIlliterate]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Only if Bloomberg doesn't run third party. Then all bets are off because of vote splitting.

He might not be able to get on all of the ballots in time if he does a third party run. Don’t know what the filing deadlines are, but I’m sure that they are approaching quickly.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by HockeyIlliterate

He might not be able to get on all of the ballots in time if he does a third party run. Don’t know what the filing deadlines are, but I’m sure that they are approaching quickly.

I just don't understand Bloomberg's intentions. When Trump was running for the Republican nomination I honestly felt that he had no interest in actually being President but I was wrong on that. Him and his team actually seemed to be all-in on winning. Bloomberg really doesn't seem to have any intention on putting together a successful campaign as was demonstrated last night. A lot of the political commentators were saying that they felt Bloomberg was not coachable and likely doesn't listen to his team. He also isn't even on the primary ballot for SC. It all seems very bizarre.

[MoneyGuy]

Not coachable and doesn’t listen to his handlers.

That reminds me of the current president.

[Rubicant]

It’s already been mentioned, but if Bloomberg really wants to help mitigate the damage done by trump and friends, he could direct all the spending he is doing for his campaign to help democrats take the senate.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by zamler

What do you think the U.S. should be doing that they currently are not? Since 2005 I think it is the U.S. has reduced emissions more than any other country all the way to current.

Step 1) Elect a president that doesn't deny the scientific consensus that climate change is real and primarily due to human activities.

Step 2) Implement carbon pricing.

Step 3) Use the money raised from the carbon tax to heavily invest in R&D of renewable energy.

That's for starters. I would have also suggested that they should elect Andrew Yang and get on with UBI and a VAT tax. Sadly, Americans (and I'd say most people in general) do not seem ready to let go of the delusional idea that life is all about consumption.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Step 1) Elect a president that doesn't deny the scientific consensus that climate change is real and primarily due to human activities.

Previous POTUS was a climate change guy didn't make a lick of difference. Remember his speech all about clean energy, leading the world in renewables blah blah all hot air.

Step 2) Implement carbon pricing.

Doesn't work this country is proof.

Step 3) Use the money raised from the carbon tax to heavily invest in R&D of renewable energy.

Generic feel good platitude. There IS NO replacement for carbon energy on a mass scale. FFS how many times does this have to repeated, ah who am I kidding nothing will convince the unicorn farts magic energy crowd.

That's for starters. I would have also suggested that they should elect Andrew Yang and get on with UBI and a VAT tax. Sadly, Americans (and I'd say most people in general) do not seem ready to let go of the delusional idea that life is all about consumption.

Tesla, and American company, is leading the way towards sustainable transport.

[PsYcNeT]

Elon Musk will save us with his brilliant idea to create

*checks notes*

subways

[zamler]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Elon Musk will save us with his brilliant idea to create

*checks notes*

subways

Mob demands clean energy, guy innovates trying to get there, mocked by mob.