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Old 12-07-2021, 11:54 AM   #101
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Alex Jones latches onto various ideas in pop culture, and has no original thoughts. If you spend every day ranting about hundreds of different conspiracy theories, eventually one of those theories, statistically speaking, will have some degree of truth to it.

Multiple civil and criminal suits had been mounting against Epstein for decades. He had 20 civil lawsuits against him and an active FBI investigation.

Alex Jones was not responsible for bringing Epstein down. Epstein was brought down by a continuous and mounting series of civil and criminal investigations. The only shocking thing about the whole Epstein thing is that he wasn't brought down years earlier.
and that he was murdered in his cell with seemingly no repercussions.
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Old 12-07-2021, 11:59 AM   #102
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and that he was murdered in his cell with seemingly no repercussions.
The whole murder conspiracy thing doesn't really make all that much sense, as there's literally a trial with his co-conspirator going on right now.

I guess they could be threatening Maxwell's life to keep her quiet? Is that the active conspiracy theory right now?
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Pffft, without conspiracy theorists going ape #### over Epstein, most of you wouldn't even know his name.
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Old 12-07-2021, 12:19 PM   #104
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Pffft, without conspiracy theorists going ape #### over Epstein, most of you wouldn't even know his name.
Lol yes, it's the conspiracy theorists that deserve praise! From their dark, dank basements they finally found ONE truth! And now must collectively bow and become their girlfriends.
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It’s disrespectful to the true conspiracy theorists to compare Alex Jones to them. He’s just a puppet for the narratives major media wants to discredit. His act and financial backing only serve their purposes. If anything him talking about Epstein helped keep him from being brought to justice sooner.
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The whole murder conspiracy thing doesn't really make all that much sense, as there's literally a trial with his co-conspirator going on right now.

I guess they could be threatening Maxwell's life to keep her quiet? Is that the active conspiracy theory right now?
Why doesn't it make sense?

If the theory is that Epstein had blackmail on the world's elite, and was heading to prison or trial where he could easily make a deal, the only way to not allow that to happen was to kill him.
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Why doesn't it make sense?

If the theory is that Epstein had blackmail on the world's elite, and was heading to prison or trial where he could easily make a deal, the only way to not allow that to happen was to kill him.
So why is the current trial happening?
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Old 12-07-2021, 12:46 PM   #108
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So why is the current trial happening?
Surprisingly enough it isn’t available in 4K like every other big trial this year…
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So why is the current trial happening?
Definitely seems like a loose end.
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So why is the current trial happening?
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So why is the current trial happening?
I'd imagine protection of Maxwell would have increased significantly considering the threat to her life, and the increased likelihood of her taking her own life.

I'm not saying the conspiracy is correct, but the fact that this trial is going ahead doesn't make it invalid either.
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Why doesn't it make sense?

If the theory is that Epstein had blackmail on the world's elite, and was heading to prison or trial where he could easily make a deal, the only way to not allow that to happen was to kill him.
Couldnt that same deal be made to Maxwell - she would surely know where the bodies are buried.

I am not saying the "Epstein didnt kill himself" is not a logical theory; i just think that "billionaire pedo would rather take his own life than rot in prison" is more logical.

If i was him, i would sure as #### kill myself
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This game is easy.

Maybe Maxwell made a deal where she would divulge information beyond a certain limit in order to not be killed.

There are literally dozens of possibilities.

Doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day Epstein worked closely with the world's elite, and they all turned a blind eye or were even involved when it came to his pedo activities.
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This game is easy.

Maybe Maxwell made a deal where she would divulge information beyond a certain limit in order to not be killed.

There are literally dozens of possibilities.

Doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day Epstein worked closely with the world's elite, and they all turned a blind eye or were even involved when it came to his pedo activities.
That isnt a fact. it's an allegation.
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It's also possible that the people around Epstein simply didn't know, If Trump could figure it out and read into it a bit it makes you wonder but still. Wasn't it a slow moving story for quite a while and then hit the fan all of a sudden?

He was a arrested and charged in Florida I believe but got off or was let go for whatever reason.

And even with Epstein now dead there is still enough evidence for a trial against Maxwell and she wasn't able to make bail so that's telling as well.
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The whole murder conspiracy thing doesn't really make all that much sense, as there's literally a trial with his co-conspirator going on right now.

I guess they could be threatening Maxwell's life to keep her quiet? Is that the active conspiracy theory right now?
Ghiswell is not Epstein. We don't know them. There's nothing weird about the idea that one of them was seen as a a risk while the other is trusted to keep her mouth shut. They are two different people after all.

They are/were also on two different places Maybe it's harder to get to someone in a womens prison. Maybe she was better protected after Epsteins death. Maybe it was thought killing Ghiswell would have been pushing things too far. Two deaths is a lot harder to brush under the carpet than one.

I don't claim to be sure. But I feel fine about saying that I see Epstein being murdered as lot more likely than a suicide.
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That isnt a fact. it's an allegation.
Eh, it's an allegation in court.

Outside the courts, it's a fact.

Everyone likely didn't know, but there is no realistic scenario where tons of people didn't know.

Tons of people in the movie business knew about Weinstein, and he didn't invite other men to his sex parties, nor had he been in prison over it before. Epstein also boasted quite a lot.

You can't say for sure who specifically knew what, that would require specific evidence, but you can say it's safe to assume that lots of people knew enough to be guilty of at least turning blind eye.

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Eh, it's an allegation in court.

Outside the courts, it's a fact.

Everyone likely didn't know, but there is no realistic scenario where tons of people didn't know.

Tons of people in the movie business knew about Weinstein, and he didn't invite other men to his sex parties, nor had he been in prison over it before. Epstein also boasted quite a lot.

You can't say for sure who specifically knew what, that would require specific evidence, but you can say it's safe to assume that lots of people knew enough to be guilty of at least turning blind eye.
especially after he got caught the first time, when he received that illegal deal.
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Tons of people in the movie business knew about Weinstein, and he didn't invite other men to his sex parties, nor had he been in prison over it before. Epstein also boasted quite a lot.
Weinstein was the worst kept secret in Hollywood. Everyone knew. It was several years before Weinstein was ever investigated, Courtney Love was asked in an interview if she had any advice for young girls getting involved in the film industry, and she said; "Yeah, if Harvey Weinstein invites you over, don't go". Brad Pitt allegedly threatened to kick the #### out of him for his behaviour as well and it made the news.
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Where are you guys reading, the trial updates?

When you search her name on Google news, the last update was 3 weeks ago. What the..
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