View Poll Results: What will happen to Brad Treliving after the end of the season?
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He should and will be fired
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17.06% |
He should be fired, but will continue as the Flames GM
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28.29% |
He should not and will not be fired
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29.42% |
He should not but will be fired
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2.76% |
Unsure if he should be, but he will be fired
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Unsure if he should be, but he will not be fired
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18.69% |
01-17-2022, 04:31 PM
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#5861
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Franchise Player
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About Brad we will know more where the team is at the end of Feb.
1st round matchup with LA or SJ which is where they are points % wise seems pretty good IMO
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01-17-2022, 04:33 PM
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#5862
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Bennett's draft position is irrelevant to what you got for him years later. Flames signed a 3 overall for free last summer.
It's fair to criticize the team for Sam but the player also needs to take some responsibility. He really didn't play all that well here consistently and it's not all on linemates. Tkachuk took his jerb and he pouted.
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I think it is revisionist history to say Tkachuk took his job. In his second year Gulutzan wanted him to be center so he put him on a line with Brouwer which failed but that was the plan from camp. Tkachuk fit so well with Backlund and Frolik that line was not changing.
Then once the center move did not work they did not know what to do with him through the 3 crappy coaches hired. Sutter gets here and it is different but still not enough time and the request was in
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01-17-2022, 05:10 PM
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#5863
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by dino7c
About Brad we will know more where the team is at the end of Feb.
1st round matchup with LA or SJ which is where they are points % wise seems pretty good IMO
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I'd be elated with just beating SJ in a series...
As bad as that team's been, you wouldn't know it based on how the Flames play them.
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01-17-2022, 05:19 PM
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#5864
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by dino7c
About Brad we will know more where the team is at the end of Feb.
1st round matchup with LA or SJ which is where they are points % wise seems pretty good IMO
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Flames and 1st round matchups no easy teams. We all know this.
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01-17-2022, 06:31 PM
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#5865
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
Haha, okay so what are we saying here? That all the GMs of the top teams in the league are just lucky, and...what? Treliving is just as good as the GMs as the GMs of the top teams of the league?
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Last edited by TOfan; 01-17-2022 at 07:23 PM.
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01-17-2022, 06:34 PM
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#5866
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
Stamkos looked mediocre for 1 year then exploded to an elite goal scorer after 1 season.
Maybe he could evolve into a Lindholm but he’s not elite and they should dump him if that is the case
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More specifically, Stamkos looked mediocre playing for Barry Melrose, an all time terrible coach. He looked a lot better playing under Rick Tochett.
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01-17-2022, 10:34 PM
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#5867
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by kukkudo
Flames and 1st round matchups no easy teams. We all know this.
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who said easy? you guys are acting like the Flames are actually out of a playoff spot like 5,6,7 yes SEVEN games in hand on the Ducks means #### all
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01-17-2022, 10:53 PM
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#5868
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Originally Posted by dino7c
who said easy? you guys are acting like the Flames are actually out of a playoff spot like 5,6,7 yes SEVEN games in hand on the Ducks means #### all
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They're 8 points behind 1st place Vegas with 6 games in hand.
No, I don't think they're as good as Vegas.
No, I don't think they're going to win all their games in hand.
But they're clearly in the playoff mix at the moment. They need to start playing like they did pre-Covid break and they'll be fine. It's really weird to see some fans talk about them rebuilding or fire Treliving right now or how horrible things are. If they start playing like they can the rest of the season is going to be a lot of fun.
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01-17-2022, 11:21 PM
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#5869
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Franchise Player
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Vegas .600 winning percentage=cup contender, greatest team that ever laced them up
Calgary .588=worst team ever, fold the franchise
signed, CP
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01-17-2022, 11:28 PM
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#5870
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
They're 8 points behind 1st place Vegas with 6 games in hand.
No, I don't think they're as good as Vegas.
No, I don't think they're going to win all their games in hand.
But they're clearly in the playoff mix at the moment. They need to start playing like they did pre-Covid break and they'll be fine. It's really weird to see some fans talk about them rebuilding or fire Treliving right now or how horrible things are. If they start playing like they can the rest of the season is going to be a lot of fun.
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It's so weird.
I honestly don't know if it is a pandemic thing or what, but I'm pretty baffled, too.
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01-17-2022, 11:39 PM
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#5871
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
They're 8 points behind 1st place Vegas with 6 games in hand.
No, I don't think they're as good as Vegas.
No, I don't think they're going to win all their games in hand.
But they're clearly in the playoff mix at the moment. They need to start playing like they did pre-Covid break and they'll be fine. It's really weird to see some fans talk about them rebuilding or fire Treliving right now or how horrible things are. If they start playing like they can the rest of the season is going to be a lot of fun.
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The team has won 17 games and lost 17 games. They’ve lost double the amount of games on home ice as they’ve won.
The team is yet again right in the mushy middle of irrelevancy. Couldn’t it just be that fans of this team are tired of eeking their way through (hockey fan) life?
The team continues to be managed in a particular way and the results never change.
Oh, and the best player on the team is a few months from free agency.
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01-18-2022, 12:54 AM
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#5872
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
The team has won 17 games and lost 17 games. They’ve lost double the amount of games on home ice as they’ve won.
The team is yet again right in the mushy middle of irrelevancy. Couldn’t it just be that fans of this team are tired of eeking their way through (hockey fan) life?
The team continues to be managed in a particular way and the results never change.
Oh, and the best player on the team is a few months from free agency.
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I said they're in the middle of the playoff race. With plenty of games in hand.
Depends on how negative you want to be about the situation, I guess. I think it's kinda fun. If you don't, that's fine, it's up to you.
And the best player on the team could be days or weeks or months away from signing a 7 year deal, too.
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01-18-2022, 01:42 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
The team has won 17 games and lost 17 games. They’ve lost double the amount of games on home ice as they’ve won.
The team is yet again right in the mushy middle of irrelevancy. Couldn’t it just be that fans of this team are tired of eeking their way through (hockey fan) life?
The team continues to be managed in a particular way and the results never change.
Oh, and the best player on the team is a few months from free agency.
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17-17 team would have 34 points...the Flames have 40 and are second in the division on points percentage.
Be negative if you want but there is some negative spin for sure....588 win percentage will have them in a divisional playoff spot for sure, although I hope they can get back to the .625 range.
League standings are totally irrelevant with this playoff system, ask Montreal.
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01-18-2022, 01:50 AM
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#5875
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
This one game in 11 days seems as though it may be causing some angst which is being channeled negatively
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We need a good covid thread to keep everyone occupied till they start playing hockey again.
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01-18-2022, 03:01 AM
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#5876
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Slurrey
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I'm not a big Treliving fan as I've wanted him gone for a couple of seasons now mostly cos he likes to trade draft picks away but unlike some of you you don't fire him now. As of now we are sitting in a playoff spot and we have many games in hand. Does it mean we'll win them all? No, but no reason we won't win some of them. We need to make some trades to get our bottom 6 better maybe a better defenceman but nothing drastic unless you can get someone really good. Anyways you fire him the day after the season ends for the Flames.
Don't make the playoffs - fired with a swift kick to the butt
1st round loss - fired with a don't let the door hit your butt on the way out
2nd round loss - fired with a stick a fork in it cos you're done
Conference finals loss - flip a coin. Heads a 2 year contract. Tails fired with a we wish you well in your future endeavors
Stanley Cup win/loss - 3 year contract
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01-18-2022, 03:47 AM
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#5877
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Njord
I'm not a big Treliving fan as I've wanted him gone for a couple of seasons now mostly cos he likes to trade draft picks away but unlike some of you you don't fire him now. As of now we are sitting in a playoff spot and we have many games in hand. Does it mean we'll win them all? No, but no reason we won't win some of them. We need to make some trades to get our bottom 6 better maybe a better defenceman but nothing drastic unless you can get someone really good. Anyways you fire him the day after the season ends for the Flames.
Don't make the playoffs - fired with a swift kick to the butt
1st round loss - fired with a don't let the door hit your butt on the way out
2nd round loss - fired with a stick a fork in it cos you're done
Conference finals loss - flip a coin. Heads a 2 year contract. Tails fired with a we wish you well in your future endeavors
Stanley Cup win/loss - 3 year contract
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lol, if the Flames are final 4 Brad isn't getting fired
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01-18-2022, 05:33 AM
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#5878
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
17-17 team would have 34 points...the Flames have 40 and are second in the division on points percentage.
Be negative if you want but there is some negative spin for sure....588 win percentage will have them in a divisional playoff spot for sure, although I hope they can get back to the .625 range.
League standings are totally irrelevant with this playoff system, ask Montreal.
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Using the outlier to prove the premise I see.
There is a direct correlation between playoff success and regular season success. While it’s certainly not 100%, I’d rather have a better regular season record heading into the playoffs than rely upon the Montreal exception.
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01-18-2022, 06:30 AM
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#5879
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
The team has won 17 games and lost 17 games. They’ve lost double the amount of games on home ice as they’ve won.
The team is yet again right in the mushy middle of irrelevancy. Couldn’t it just be that fans of this team are tired of eeking their way through (hockey fan) life?
The team continues to be managed in a particular way and the results never change.
Oh, and the best player on the team is a few months from free agency.
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You forgot Tkachuk is also going to sign his QO and we will lose him for nothing. Same for Mangiapane. The event centre isn’t going to get built, and if it does it will be 100% tax payer funded.
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01-18-2022, 07:48 AM
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#5880
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Franchise Player
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I don't know, two wins in their last 10 may have something to do with the negativity. Yes some people are far too pessimistic in constantly predicting failure but looking at the overall season record and ignoring the trend line isn't all that helpful either.
This isn't how you want to be playing in the second chunk of 20 games.
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