04-11-2020, 08:39 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Who in your opinion is the most overrated player of all-time?
For me it's probably Shane Doan. His status as a great leader I feel made people believe he was a much better player than he actually was. I saw some people say they would take him over Iggy which is absolute blasphemy. Doan was never a superstar at any point in his career.
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04-11-2020, 08:42 AM
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#2
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Franchise Player
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Messier
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04-11-2020, 08:43 AM
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#3
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Franchise Player
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Came in to say Mark Messier as well
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04-11-2020, 08:52 AM
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#4
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Fearmongerer
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3rd leading scorer in the history of the game.
5 time Stanley Cup winner, twice as captain.
2 time Hart trophy winner, 2 time Pearson winner, Conn Smythe winner
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Over rated?
Tough crowd.
I hated the guy with a passion as well, but he is, by almost any metric, one of the best players to ever take the ice.
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04-11-2020, 09:00 AM
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#5
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Franchise Player
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His scoring is a function of era and longevity and Rangers cup is a function of spending. His post Gretzky Oilers cup would be his notable accomplishment.
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04-11-2020, 09:09 AM
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#6
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#1 Goaltender
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I don't know about all time, but for me it's Jonathan Toews in the cap era. No his cup rings don't do much for me because those are team accomplishments. The stories about how Crosby almost had to bow down to his majesty at the Olympics because he's the greatest leader in all of hockey were just so lame.
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04-11-2020, 09:11 AM
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#7
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Franchise Player
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Clark Gillies and Glenn Anderson, "HoFers"
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04-11-2020, 09:21 AM
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#8
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Norm!
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Messier, Anderson, Gilles are all in the discussion.
While I wouldn't call him over rated, I've always said that Gretzky came along at the perfect time and the perfect storm of a really talent stretched NHL, which allowed him to rack up the points that he did.
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04-11-2020, 09:22 AM
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#9
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Alexander Daigle. He was considered a can't miss prospect in his draft year and yet failed to live up to the hype when he got to the NHL.
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04-11-2020, 10:00 AM
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#10
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#1 Goaltender
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Kevin Lowe
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04-11-2020, 10:03 AM
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#11
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Franchise Player
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Location: SW Ontario
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Connor McDavid. The amount of hype this guy gets is higher than anyone in history. Is he great offensive player? Yes. He is not a complete player though and has not really proven anything in the NHL yet except he can rack up points. The media talks about him in the same breath as the all time greats and he just isn't.
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04-11-2020, 10:05 AM
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#12
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
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Alexander Daigle. He was considered a can't miss prospect in his draft year and yet failed to live up to the hype when he got to the NHL.
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Nope. Daigle had three 20 goal, 50 point seasons in the NHL, well over 300 NHL points and a number of additional seasons playing pro hockey in Europe. He shouldn't have gone first overall, obviously, but that's still miles better than, say, Nail Yakupov.
I'm voting Messier as well, the guy bought into his own hype so much. Greatest captain? Nah, that guy's name is Yzerman.
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04-11-2020, 10:13 AM
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#13
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Franchise Player
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The Sedins.
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04-11-2020, 10:15 AM
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#14
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First Line Centre
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Bernie Federko.. HOF, i dont think so
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04-11-2020, 10:18 AM
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#15
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Franchise Player
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*insert good player from team I don’t like*
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04-11-2020, 10:19 AM
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First Line Centre
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Scott Gomez
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04-11-2020, 10:25 AM
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#17
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
3rd leading scorer in the history of the game.
5 time Stanley Cup winner, twice as captain.
2 time Hart trophy winner, 2 time Pearson winner, Conn Smythe winner
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Over rated?
Tough crowd.
I hated the guy with a passion as well, but he is, by almost any metric, one of the best players to ever take the ice.
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You can be a great player and still be overrated.
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04-11-2020, 10:27 AM
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#18
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Trevor Linden, but maybe that's because I live in Vancouver.
People here act like he's their Iginla. Nice guy, but as a player he's more like a Craig Conroy.
+1 on Shane Doan too.
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04-11-2020, 10:28 AM
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Franchise Player
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No one is saying Messier sucked at hockey. Far from it. But when you personally hand out a leadership award each year that has your own name on it, you invite this kind of response.
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04-11-2020, 10:31 AM
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#20
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
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The Sedins.
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I'm trying to think about this, but the Sedins? Really? I'm glad they're gone for a whole variety of reasons but I absolutely hated those bastards because they were so damned good they tore us apart constantly.
Talented beyond belief and consistently carried pluggers on their line and made them look world class.
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