07-15-2021, 10:12 AM
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#15421
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Seravalli also reporting the Leafs & Avs are in on Kuemper
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07-15-2021, 10:13 AM
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#15422
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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I like Hyman but...
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07-15-2021, 10:13 AM
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#15423
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
Sorry buddy, nobody cares about batting average when you are hitting home runs.
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Apologies in advance comrade, but the Flames ain't hitting home runs. They're hitting singles and doubles like everyone else, with an odd pop here or there. A home run is a Kucherov level pick, someone who becomes a dominant game-changing player. A triple would be a first line or first pair player, like Gaudreau. A double would be a guy that plays in your middle six or second pair. Singles are guys that are bottom line or bottom pairing players. Johnny Hockey is a triple, but the rest of picks are at best doubles. The best picks for Calgary are Fox (sadly a home run) and Gaudreau (a triple). Too bad the home run happened after he was sent to another team. That really would have helped the Flames. But no, the Flames are not hitting homeruns. The result prove that.
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07-15-2021, 10:13 AM
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#15424
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Franchise Player
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I like Hyman but indeed he reeks of a guy that is going to get overpaid as a free agent.
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07-15-2021, 10:13 AM
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#15425
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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GMs really don’t learn, do they
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07-15-2021, 10:16 AM
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#15426
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CP's Fraser Crane
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I like Hyman but indeed he reeks of a guy that is going to get overpaid as a free agent.
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David Clarkson 2.0
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07-15-2021, 10:22 AM
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#15427
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Help, save, whatever.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stang
David Clarkson 2.0
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I've just got a feeling the Oilers sign him.
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07-15-2021, 10:22 AM
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#15428
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stang
David Clarkson 2.0
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Exactly who I thought of. Hyman has had better years than Clarkson did before UFA eligibility though. I don't recall the type of players Clarkson was on a line with but Hyman has had the benefit of playing with a legit 1st line center in Tavares or Matthews.
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07-15-2021, 10:23 AM
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#15429
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Franchise Player
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Hyman is going to be Treliving's test of whether he truly learned anything from Brouwer and Neal.
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07-15-2021, 10:25 AM
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#15430
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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at that length the number better start with a 3..
7 x 3.5
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07-15-2021, 10:25 AM
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#15431
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by savemedrzaius
I've just got a feeling the Oilers sign him.
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7 yrs at $6.5M/yr. Get it done Kenny!
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07-15-2021, 10:28 AM
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#15432
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfman
Whoever pays Hyman $6M is nuts. Not a lot of teams can afford to do it anyway. Maybe Seattle.
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Never thought I’d read “hyman” and “nuts” on this forum and nobody bat an eye at it. 2021 - we are so mature now.
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07-15-2021, 10:32 AM
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#15433
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Apologies in advance comrade, but the Flames ain't hitting home runs. They're hitting singles and doubles like everyone else, with an odd pop here or there. A home run is a Kucherov level pick, someone who becomes a dominant game-changing player. A triple would be a first line or first pair player, like Gaudreau. A double would be a guy that plays in your middle six or second pair. Singles are guys that are bottom line or bottom pairing players. Johnny Hockey is a triple, but the rest of picks are at best doubles. The best picks for Calgary are Fox (sadly a home run) and Gaudreau (a triple). Too bad the home run happened after he was sent to another team. That really would have helped the Flames. But no, the Flames are not hitting homeruns. The result prove that.
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So drafting a guy who has been 11th overall in points over the last 7 years in the 4th round is not a home run?
It keeps getting harder to take you seriously. It is like you take a ridiculous opinion and will argue it until you are blue in the face and moving the goal posts as required.
Since the lockout of 2006 the Flames picked 4 guys who I would say are absolute home runs. Brodie has been a top pairing Dman for a decade in the league and was picked in the 4th round of 08. Gaudreau as discussed above is an offensive superstar in the league and was 4th in Hart trophy voting in 18/19 and has been near ppg through 500+ games. Picked in the 4th round absolute home run. The next guy who is on his way to that status is Mangiapane who is a proven top 6 forward who continues to get better and I believe will establish himself as a 25+ goal scorer this year and he was a 6th rounder in his second year being eligible to be drafted. Last is Adam Fox who was a third rounder and just won the Norris at 23.
All of those players are picked in rounds where you don’t expect to one NHL players let alone stars or at least high end players. To call a guy who is a top 4/6 Dman/forward as anything but a home run they need to be drafted in the top 2 rounds. If you get stars beyond those are home runs.
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07-15-2021, 10:51 AM
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#15434
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sunnyvale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Vancouver??
How early can you sign an extension after signing a contract? With Hughes and Petterson and Vancouver's cap crunch for 21/22, can Vancouver sign them each to a one year contract, and then immediately sign them to 6x7 extensions?
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07-15-2021, 10:54 AM
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#15435
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek Sutton
Vancouver??
How early can you sign an extension after signing a contract? With Hughes and Petterson and Vancouver's cap crunch for 21/22, can Vancouver sign them each to a one year contract, and then immediately sign them to 6x7 extensions?
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The earliest you can sign a contract extension after signing a 1 year contract is Jan 1.
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07-15-2021, 10:55 AM
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#15436
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Franchise Player
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Hyman will go back to being a 0.5 point per game player. I don't believe any GM will hand out a 7-8 year term. I think that's too insane even for them.
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07-15-2021, 10:56 AM
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#15437
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Hyman will go back to being a 0.5 point per game player. I don't believe any GM will hand out a 7-8 year term. I think that's too insane even for them.
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Edmonton usually has to get insane to entice someone there if other teams are interested
They tried to outbid us on James Neal remember
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07-15-2021, 11:28 AM
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#15438
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I like Hyman but indeed he reeks of a guy that is going to get overpaid as a free agent.
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They don't call it the silly season for nothing.
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07-15-2021, 12:19 PM
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#15439
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
It makes too much sense for Dougie Hamilton.
7 years, 10.5’ish. Seattle locks in an elite defenceman as one of their cornerstone pieces. Reunite Gio and Hamilton, and their defence is already better than ours.
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that would be a great signing for them - Seattle has a lot of museums right?!
Not sure what Carolina was doing though...is this going to be a sign and trade? Not getting anything for Hamilton would be nuts on the part of Carolina
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07-15-2021, 12:35 PM
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#15440
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
7 yrs at $6.5M/yr. Get it done Kenny!
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Damn that's a lot of grain....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oilboimcdavid
Eakins wasn't a bad coach, the team just had 2 bad years, they should've been more patient.
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