[Signing] Oilers extend F Leon Draisaitl (8x$14M AAV)

[Jason14h]

Well I certainly don’t think Drais gets another 1000 pts in his career and ends with 1850 points and top 5 all time

But I don’t think the Oilers are overly worried about the last 5 years either

They will trade every pick for the next few seasons trying to get a cup (and convincing McDavid to stay )

Signing Drais was their 1st and best chance to lay the foundation to keep McDavid

If he leaves it’s completely over for them and everyone knows it

[dino7c]

So if Vancouver scores late and wins in OT is this still a good deal and their best chance for the Oilers to win a cup? Honest question.

Or if Dallas wins game six as they really should have and wins 7 at home?

I honestly think this contract would be different or at the very least be talked about differently if the Oilers didn't have so much break their way.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Well I certainly don’t think Drais gets another 1000 pts in his career and ends with 1850 points and top 5 all time

But I don’t think the Oilers are overly worried about the last 5 years either

They will trade every pick for the next few seasons trying to get a cup (and convincing McDavid to stay )

Signing Drais was their 1st and best chance to lay the foundation to keep McDavid

If he leaves it’s completely over for them and everyone knows it

You would think so, they traded their 2025 first for a 2024 first though

They also don't have a few seasons to convince McDavid...they have this season and have to ink him next summer

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Recency bias summed up pretty well.

Recently bias isn’t really a thing when you talk about sports and team performance ….

Since recency is all that matters .

The two of them with the (most recent and closest team to what they have this year ) made it to game 7

Why would you go further back than the most recent season ?

Recency Bias also shows Florida is the best team , and SJ sucks !

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dino7c

So if Vancouver scores late and wins in OT is this still a good deal and their best chance for the Oilers to win a cup? Honest question.

Or if Dallas wins game six as they really should have and wins 7 at home?

I honestly think this contract would be different or at the very least be talked about differently if the Oilers didn't have so much break their way.

Yes it is there best chance .

Doesn’t mean it makes them the favorite . You seem to be confusing their best chance with Oilers have the best chance in the league

No contending team is giving up better players for Drais and no rebuilding team has what Edmonton needs short term .

You argument itself shows why no one is giving up better players for Drais that give the Oilers a better chance to win

“His contract will age poorly and he best days are behind him”

Why would another team pay a premium for that privledge ?

His value is higher to the Oilers then any other team the NHL

[dino7c]

Vegas made it to the finals but realized how unlikely their run was and didn't double and triple down on that team at all costs. They made bold moves and actually won a cup a couple years later.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Yes it is there best chance .

Doesn’t mean it makes them the favorite . You seem to be confusing their best chance with Oilers have the best chance in the league

No contending team is giving up better players for Drais and no rebuilding team has what Edmonton needs short term .

You argument itself shows why no one is giving up better players for Drais that give the Oilers a better chance to win

“His contract will age poorly and he best days are behind him”

Why would another team pay a premium for that privledge ?

His value is higher to the Oilers then any other team the NHL

he is over rated IMO, teams make bad trades and signings all the time...also the Oilers have specific needs. They already have a center that Drai will never play above and have a terrible defence. I think they would be better off bringing in a high end D. Any half decent player will do well with McDavid on the Power play. Maybe not as well but it would be a net gain. We can disagree but we are talking in circles.

[butterfly]

We were so close that we lost in Game 7 of the Finals crowd:

2019 Bruins: never been back.
2011 Canucks: never been back.
2009 Red Wings: never been back.
2006 Oilers: back 18 years later with a completely different team and lost again.
2004 Flames: never been back.
2003 Ducks: WON in 2007! With an almost entirely different team.

So…change your team?

[Jason14h]

What was Vegas bold move ?

Trading spare parts for stars - just like Florida

You want to Oilers to do the opposite

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dino7c

he is over rated IMO, teams make bad trades and signings all the time...also the Oilers have specific needs. They already have a center that Drai will never play above and have a terrible defence. I think they would be better off bringing in a high end D. Any half decent player will do well with McDavid on the Power play.

Oh we all know what you would do - Trade him for this mythical number 1 D that a contender for some reason is trading for an overrated , now overpaid and aging player

Yet you cant produce a single name that fits the criteria !

Just one name. One

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

What was Vegas bold move ?

Trading spare parts for stars - just like Florida

You want to Oilers to do the opposite

Nope, first of all I'm good with what they did

second if I was in charge instead of that pedo concealer I would try and build a more balanced team realizing the likelihood of getting back to a cup let alone winning with that D and goaltending is very low

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by butterfly

We were so close that we lost in Game 7 of the Finals crowd:

2019 Bruins: never been back.
2011 Canucks: never been back.
2009 Red Wings: never been back.
2006 Oilers: back 18 years later with a completely different team and lost again.
2004 Flames: never been back.
2003 Ducks: WON in 2007! With an almost entirely different team.

So…change your team?

exactly, if you are talking a wire to wire great youngish team its one thing to bring it on back. Especially if you lost largely because of an injury or something. Oilers have basically had the same team for the entire primes of their career and they have one final run that wouldn't have happened if Vancouvers starting goalie or top goal scorer wasn't injured.

Again this is an opinion, you guys are welcome to yours unless its ridiculous but only one person is doing that

I think the Oilers chances of a cup this season are worse than last and think it continues to slide yearly...no I would not hook my wagon to that at all costs. Most teams would, I get it...most teams also lose.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by dino7c

exactly, if you are talking a wire to wire great youngish team its one thing to bring it on back. Especially if you lost largely because of an injury or something. Oilers have basically had the same team for the entire primes of their career and they have one final run that wouldn't have happened if Vancouvers starting goalie or top goal scorer wasn't injured.

Again this is an opinion, you guys are welcome to yours unless its ridiculous but only one person is doing that

I think the Oilers chances of a cup this season are worse than last and think it continues to slide yearly...no I would not hook my wagon to that at all costs. Most teams would, I get it...most teams also lose.

I’m just waiting for Oiler fan to claim that all those teams were old and that’s why they couldn’t run it back.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by butterfly

I’m just waiting for Oiler fan to claim that all those teams were old and that’s why they couldn’t run it back.

they weren't old enough! (the league has totally changed, you know?)

[Jason14h]

But two things can be true - the oilers chances CAN be worse this year (I agree) and signing Drais was also their best (of a lot of bad options) chance to go on another miracle run in the next few seasons

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

But two things can be true - the oilers chances CAN be worse this year (I agree) and signing Drais was also their best (of a lot of bad options) chance to go on another miracle run in the next few seasons

By doing nothing they’d have the exact same chance. Maybe more if you believe players are motivated in contract years.

Now they’re on the hook well into the 2030s, and I, for one, am thrilled.

[butterfly]

8 years ago people were scrambling to buy an iPhone 6 so they could go to Pokestops. 8 years is a long time. And the clock doesn’t even begin until July 1.

[All In Good Time]

Look what you folks have done!!!
You went and got Lynx and Kevin all worked up right before bedtime

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dino7c

So if Vancouver scores late and wins in OT is this still a good deal and their best chance for the Oilers to win a cup? Honest question.

Or if Dallas wins game six as they really should have and wins 7 at home?

I honestly think this contract would be different or at the very least be talked about differently if the Oilers didn't have so much break their way.

What if the Oilers had won the SC?

What if my aunt had balls?

The only chance the Oilers have/had to win the SC anytime soon is to sign him, regardless of the "what ifs".

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Its not cherry pick...YOU are the one saying Drai will average 100+ points per year. He won't. Him being old and injury prone doesn't give you an out either...that is kinda the point. According you you Oiler homers he nearly dies and plays with one leg every playoffs. Guy has a lot of miles on him already.

If its a shortened season or something you can use points/GP but not if its injuries from being older