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Originally Posted by Bunk

Fun Fact: We lead the Western Conference in Goals For.

You're right. That is fun!

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Lindholm was streaky last year too. I think he scored like 4 goals in the last 50 games of the season or something crazy.

I think your 40ish point guys are always going to be streaky.

I agree that it’s a little soon, or a little too homerish, to conclude that Lindholm’s output will continue while Ferland’s won’t. Yeah Ferland is older but he has improved every single year so that may simply continue.

I still like Lindholm’s game though and may ultimately help the Flames in more ways. Even though that top line hasn’t been great in their own zone so far.

[FireGilbert]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Fun Fact: We lead the Western Conference in Goals For.

With balanced scoring too. No player top 10 in the league and every regular forward with at least a point.

[Ryan Coke]

On the day of the trade to now I mostly regret losing Ferland. Still like his skill set.

I have no regrets about losing Hamilton.

[SebC]

It's weird, I actually think the hit looks worse in real time. But it's hard to fault a guy's intent when I can't even figure out a clear position after watching analyzing it for 10 minutes.

[KipperFaNaTic]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

There was a big reaction earlier when Donato tripped Gaudreau.

There wasn't a reaction here because everyone involved in the game knew that what happened to Gaudreau would've happened to every single one of them. And had they been McAvoy, they all would've done it.

Plus they were going on the powerplay. Plus <10 to go. Lots of reasons to not throw a fit.

I hear you. But in response, since Gaudreau was tripped earlier in the game, I would argue that Gaudreau being hit a second time warrants an even bigger response.

I am quite emphatic about a strong response because it is Gaudreau, who is our star player and small, but if the player were anyone other than Gaudreau (e.g., Monahan, Backlund, Tkachuk) I still would want a strong response as the hit was violent enough.

You say there are lots of reasons to not throw a fit, I see a lot of reasons to throw a fit: improves team solidarity, improves team toughness, sends a precedent to the rest of the 29 teams to not take advantage of Gaudreau (and other Flames players), decreases the likelihood of Gaudreau (and other Flames players) being injured.

Perhaps, I am putting too much stock on toughness, but considering the narrative of the past two seasons of the Flames being soft and lacking toughness, I am very disappointed in the Flames response.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

On the day of the trade to now I mostly regret losing Ferland. Still like his skill set.

I have no regrets about losing Hamilton.

Outside of a few streaks when he got hot he was largely invisible and less of a physical presence than Bennett. Zero regrets he's gone.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

a bit surprising that Lindholm is a -3.

He came away from the first game with a -4. Even though he was not responsible for any of the goals against. And I think on a couple of them, he had just stepped on the ice.

In very small sample sizes, things can be entirely attributable to luck. And in this case, Lindholm had a very unlucky first game.

[gunnner]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

On the day of the trade to now I mostly regret losing Ferland. Still like his skill set.

I have no regrets about losing Hamilton.

Same here. I think we knew what we had in Hamilton. A game breaker at times, but i really felt the downside of his game was being covered up by Gio. What i wondered, was Ferland's game, much like Bennett, being restricted by GG. I just think guys like Ferland can be one of a kind series breakers in the playoffs, but the consistency wasnt there under GG. Was that the system , or the player?

[Kybb79]

Why do people try to compare Bennett to Ferly on here? Right now Ferly is the better player. Carolina fans really like him and he is on the topline in Carolina.

[Gaskal]

Let's not sensationalize things.

There wasn't any response to the second hit because everyone was coming off the bench and McAvoy was in the midst of being shooed by an official into the penalty box.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Let's not sensationalize things.

There wasn't any response to the second hit because everyone was coming off the bench and McAvoy was in the midst of being shooed by an official into the penalty box.

Yeah, IIRC, there was a line change because Gaudreau was on a solo effort. And it was just the beginning of it.

And I don't know who was coming on - if its Ryan, Jankowski and Czarnik, I'm not sure who decides to rush McAvoy on the way to the box. Anyone else getting involved gets a game misconduct for coming off the bench.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Kybb79

Why do people try to compare Bennett to Ferly on here? Right now Ferly is the better player. Carolina fans really like him and he is on the topline in Carolina.

Bit of a chicken and egg thing. Ferland is on the top line because of the departure of of Lindholm, and because he is on the top line and getting PP minutes, he has been put in a position to score more than Bennett has.

Bennett on Carolina's top line would likely be doing equally well.

Anyway, back on topic, I am very pleased with how the Flames have been doing so far this year. After the pre-season China trip, they have won both games at home, are 2-2 on the road, and after playing 4 games against teams I consider to be playoff contenders, they have won 3 of those games, 2 on the road. If you had asked me before the season started if I would have taken a 3-3 record after the first 6 games, I would have said yes, considering the schedule and the quality of competition, but the Flames have done better than that. Hope the keep up the good work tonight against Nashville!

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

He came away from the first game with a -4. Even though he was not responsible for any of the goals against. And I think on a couple of them, he had just stepped on the ice.

In very small sample sizes, things can be entirely attributable to luck. And in this case, Lindholm had a very unlucky first game.

Gaudreau and Monahan are minus players too. Although plus/minus is not a great stat and is affected by luck, there are a couple of other factors here too:

1) That line is getting a lot of points on the PP
2) They still haven't been that good in their own zone, 5 on 5, IMO

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Kybb79

Why do people try to compare Bennett to Ferly on here? Right now Ferly is the better player. Carolina fans really like him and he is on the topline in Carolina.

With Ferland gone, there's a lot of weight out of the lineup. Bennett is supposed to be playing a heavy game himself, so seeing Bennett bring more of that to his game is going to be important to soften the loss of what he brought.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Yrebmi

If you are playing 80 games without scoring and still put up 20 goals, those other two games are gonna be doozies!

You bet your ass those games are doozies especially when you for get yoi dont play 100 games a year ansd simply 82