I've made this point earlier but if he is in the tram there is going to be pressure to play him, and he will be a distraction as well as a team management obstacle.
He's not a warm enough body to justify keeping him around. He messes up line combinations, minutes and team leadership structure. The flames need more foot soldiers.
a. If he's a huge distraction, sit him, or as he's only got a NTC, not a NMC, he could be sent down.
b. IMO he's a warm enough body to play on the 4th line, and he's still useful in some situations. If you look at game threads you will see plenty of posts about how Brouwer is "surprisingly" doing well that game. He just shouldn't be on the first PP unit, or teamed with Stajan (which won't happen for obvious reasons) on a PK.
c. As for leadership, both you and I really don't know the dynamic in the room, unless you aren't sharing something. In fact, I've heard stuff about other players that I can't and won't share that I could say impact the "leadership structure" but I'm not going to throw that stuff in the mix because I can't confirm it. Bottom line is that, for all we know, Brouwer is great in the room. Everyone says "make Backlund an A", but what if he doesn't want it, if he's not a leadership type despite being a consistent performer, etc.
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I don't see any chance the Flames will buy out Brouwer this season.
Flames would be on the hook for 4 seasons
Most likely this could occur next summer in my opinion.
I would say the opportunity to free up 3 million in cap space for the next 2 seasons makes more sense. With a potential cap of 82 million and the additional 3 from the buyout the Flames would have 22 million available.
I would say the opportunity to free up 3 million in cap space for the next 2 seasons makes more sense. With a potential cap of 82 million and the additional 3 from the buyout the Flames would have 22 million available.
Like I said, if they need that space they can do it. however, they can do most of the moves that have been discussed without spending the extra money in a buyout. If they do it, it's time to get excited about the higher priced talent available.
Like I said, if they need that space they can do it. however, they can do most of the moves that have been discussed without spending the extra money in a buyout. If they do it, it's time to get excited about the higher priced talent available.
The other move as a happy medium is try and move him at 50% retained.
Chris Johnston reporting that it appears more and more likely the islanders will re-sign Tavares
As much as I would want Tavares, I would be happy for Islanders fans. It's probably super discouraging to lose a player of that caliber. For example, imagine if we were about to lose Gaudreau or Monahan to FA.
I'm not sure anyone wants Brouwer even at half price. There's a lot of players who can deliver more than he can at 2.25 mill a season. Flames might have to part with another asset on top of that and not expect to get anything back in return.
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Re: Tavares
He made it so close to FA. Why not wait a week and see whats there? I mean, I do get why he would re-sign, but you'd think there would be some curiosity.
Tavares should at least wait until the courting period shouldn't he? He has absolutely nothing to lose now listening to other teams, unless he's worried about stepping off the curb and getting hit by a bus in the next 2 weeks.
Islanders have the extra year in their pocket, which is a huge advantage, but if he re-signs there I will still be amazed. That gong show has pissed away the first 10 years of his career, and it's not like they are a legit contender the way Tampa was last off season with Stamkos. Plus Tampa had tax advantages in their back pocket too.
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It's got to be something along the lines of admitting they've been losers running the franchise into the ground with strange decisions for years... but we fired everyone John. For you.
Call me crazy but the I think the Isles are one big piece away from being a contender. They're lacking a stud d man. I'm not familiar with their cap situation but if they could get their hands on a good all around #1 guy, they would be a force to be reckoned with.
They have a lot of talent up front. Barzal looks like another franchise center and a lot of Isles fans think he's surpassed Tavares offensively already as a rookie.
They apparently have a goalie phenom coming up in Ilya Sorokin, although he's stuck in Russia for now.
They could be a great team if Lou has some tricks up his sleeve.
ps- I'm fully aware the difficulty of the task of getting your hands on a great defenseman.
They might be a few pieces away, but they don't have them now and thats what Tavares should be looking at. Lou can promise him whatever but until he has it, he has nothing.
We'll get Grubauer! That can't possible sway Tavares.
We'll go after AV to coach us! Fine, but you haven't hired him yet.
Tavares has heard nothing but promises I would imagine for the last decade. Why not listen to teams that have those pieces in place already?
It's got to be something along the lines of admitting they've been losers running the franchise into the ground with strange decisions for years... but we fired everyone John. For you.
Tavares likes NY, so if they meet his price I don't see much of an issue. I think the hiring of Lou goes a long way to convincing him of any lack of stability in the org. I imagine Trotz might be a consideration as coach.
They might be a few pieces away, but they don't have them now and thats what Tavares should be looking at. Lou can promise him whatever but until he has it, he has nothing.
We'll get Grubauer! That can't possible sway Tavares.
We'll go after AV to coach us! Fine, but you haven't hired him yet.
Tavares has heard nothing but promises I would imagine for the last decade. Why not listen to teams that have those pieces in place already?
So you are saying he shouldn't talk to the Flames then because we are in the exact same boat.
So you are saying he shouldn't talk to the Flames then because we are in the exact same boat.
Nah, we're not.
The Flames were an 84 point team without Tavares, and with Monahan broken for half a season, plus no Tkachuk or Brodie for the last 3rd of the season.
The Isles were an 80 point team with Tavares.
Also, the Isles are losing two of their top 6 d to free agency, the Flames have all their D locked up. Plus the Flames have Smith signed, the Isles #1 goalie who started the most games for them and posted the best numbers out of their 3 goalies is also a UFA.
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