[Signing] Canucks sign Ferland (4yrs, $3.5 mil AAV)

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

That's a decent deal for the Canucks. Ugh. I think their D is a definite question, but I think they are in a good spot to contend for a playoff spot this year.

It really annoys me that we keep giving money to 30+ over the hill garbage UFAs, leaving the flames out of contention on some pretty decent UFAs in their prime.

Which 30+ year old over the hill garbage UFA did the Flames sign this off-season? There's been two big misses in Brouwer and Neal but let's not make it out that it's some annual thing with the organization.

[flames_fan_down_under]

He’s an awesome player who I wish was still a Flame. Good signing by the Nucks.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

He has a 1st place team that had a bad playoff round - I like that he hasn't overreacted and done something instantly regrettable.

Congratulations, Ferland. There isn't a city I'd rather be rich in than Vancouver.

I’d like to see him do something for the good of the team.

...people seem to be assuming I only wanted him to go out and do something stupid that would hurt the team?

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Which 30+ year old over the hill garbage UFA did the Flames sign this off-season? There's been two big misses in Brouwer and Neal but let's not make it out that it's some annual thing with the organization.

Lest we forget Mason Raymond and Jonas Hiller.

Plus there’s still time for Tre to overpay Maroon.

[Monahan For Mayor]

I’m going to go out on a limb here and predict Bennet has to scrap him after ferland rocks someone next season. It will be a hell of a fight, but not one I actually want to see.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Lest we forget Mason Raymond and Jonas Hiller.

Plus there’s still time for Tre to overpay Maroon.

Hiller was a great signing in the first year. It helped that Hartley seemed to have a magic touch when it came to choosing when to end a starting run by each goalie.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

That's a decent deal for the Canucks. Ugh. I think their D is a definite question, but I think they are in a good spot to contend for a playoff spot this year.

It really annoys me that we keep giving money to 30+ over the hill garbage UFAs, leaving the flames out of contention on some pretty decent UFAs in their prime.

Ryan 32 - good contract
Neal 31 - bad contract
Frolik 31 - good contract originally, last year on it
Backlund 30 - fair contract

How does this qualify as 'keep giving money to 30+ over the hill garbage UFAs'? There are few teams in the league that would have less money allocated to 30+ year olds.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Lest we forget Mason Raymond and Jonas Hiller.

Plus there’s still time for Tre to overpay Maroon.

Hiller was a main reason the Flames made the playoffs in 2014/15 and that contract was fair value. Raymond wasn't 30 year old over the hill player as he came off a 45 point season with the Leafs and was just a player who's career ended abruptly.

[Johnny Makarov]

Our only way to combat this move to convince Bieksa to come out of retirement.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Our only way to combat this move to convince Bieksa to come out of retirement.

A deprive us of him in a broadcast booth? You wouldn't dare.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Yeah agreed.

Term is a much bigger issue with dollars in the 3.5 to 4.5 range.

My concerns are of course injury and potential career ending concussion, but then also the fact that he likely has to change his game to make sure that doesn't happen.

He really shouldn't fight.

Yeah, further to that, I see real question marks around Ferland away from the ice as well.

I think consistency of effort is a real thing and I think it's been a main issue in Ferland not crossing that threshold.

It's not some big deal or anything, I just as a rule wouldn't be giving term to guys like that. I'd rather pay a bit more up front for the increased flexibility.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Barca

I love this! great value for his production.

People are saying he's injury "prone"... but he has played 70+ games for the past 5 seasons though...

The Canucks now have a log jam of forwards, I expect a trade or two will happen soon.

Welcome Ferkland!

It's not the number of games he's missed that's the issue. It's the type of injury, and how he plays when he returns each time. Like some have said, he's a bad hit from early retirement.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

A deprive us of him in a broadcast booth? You wouldn't dare.

We're screwed either way really.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

By acquiring Miller and Ferland they achieved what we couldn't either- create an (almost) entirely new top-6 line to compete. Time will tell if the players fit but I think it was an interesting set of moves. I also think that Myers has gone from overrated to underrated over the last few years, but we shall see. Hate the canucks but this new look lineup is much better than last years, and undoubtedly superior to what the oilers are going to ice next season.

They could create a new 2nd line, simply because they didn't have one before.

This lineup is better than the Oilers, sure - if that is the bar to be achieved. But it is still a pretty mediocre lineup, and they are now a cap team. Nothing here scares me, as a Flames' fan.

[shogged]

This is the worst news of the summer

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Toonage

We're screwed either way really.

Oh come on, you may have hated him as a player but he is quite quick-witted on screen. He's one of those guys that will transitions seamlessly into a broadcast role.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Oh come on, you may have hated him as a player but he is quite quick-witted on screen. He's one of those guys that will transitions seamlessly into a broadcast role.

I just don't see it. But yes, I might have pre-existing bias getting in the way. Give it time I suppose.

[Timbo]

Please let there be two Ferlands.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Which 30+ year old over the hill garbage UFA did the Flames sign this off-season? There's been two big misses in Brouwer and Neal but let's not make it out that it's some annual thing with the organization.

it's 2 back to back screw ups though which are, combined, costing the flames $7.25M in aav this year. That's pretty ridiculous.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

By acquiring Miller and Ferland they achieved what we couldn't either- create an (almost) entirely new top-6 line to compete. Time will tell if the players fit but I think it was an interesting set of moves. I also think that Myers has gone from overrated to underrated over the last few years, but we shall see. Hate the canucks but this new look lineup is much better than last years, and undoubtedly superior to what the oilers are going to ice next season.

All Treliving did last year was significantly improve the top line at both ends of the ice, and create a situation where the top two D pairings was much more optimal. Plus adding a fourth line C that helped a lot.