[Rumour] NJD willing to trade for Markstrom in offseason if deal not reached before deadline

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

This detail is often brushed aside in the speculation, but I'd suspect a roster goalie coming back the other way is a foregone conclusion.

Vanacek coming back would hardly be a problem in my eyes.

1 year left at $3M. You could retain and flip on him, you could buy him out, you could waive him. I’d say no problem on that front.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Vanacek coming back would hardly be a problem in my eyes.

1 year left at $3M. You could retain and flip on him, you could buy him out, you could waive him. I’d say no problem on that front.

Yup. You let everyone know that he and Vladar are both available, and one will get moved.

If there is not interest in either, you can buy him out.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Vanacek is also a good tandem goalie, he is not some junk coming our way either.

We need to make this trade now. The locker room already is defeated not sure what he is worried about.

[Nelson]

TRADE HIM! He's 34, and his contract only last for 2 more years after this one. We're not ready to compete for a Stanley Cup.

[SemicolonD]

Trade him! My post on the other Markstrom thread

Originally Posted by SemicolonD

Conroy values keeping the room together and having competitive games down the stretch and so trading Marky had to always be an overpayment in a trade but I’m not sure I agree with that philosophy.

The most valuable assets we’re gna have this year and the next is our own draft pick. You trade Markstrom yesterday so you can finally improve this years pick, or in the summer latest so that we don’t pick outside top 10 next year and lose the pick.


Like always though we’re stuck trying to balance two opposites, we trade UFAs like Tanev for full futures but now we want to ADD a depth D. As fun as the Hartley comeback year was, sneaking into the playoffs and beating the Canucks damaged any rational long term thinking and led to hasty moves by Treliving who overestimated our progress in the rebuild. Same thing happens this year if we sneak into the playoffs, ownership doesn’t take into account that we had Hanafin and Tanev majority of the season, and then the mandate is to keep chipping away half assed at a retool.

We have NO current or future superstars and we’ll never get one without a high pick. This team is destined to keep picking in the 10-16 range, and in an effort to stay competitive will lose next years 16th pick to Montreal if they stay this course.

[topfiverecords]

Can we merge the Markstrom not getting traded thread with the Devils still trying to acquire Markstrom thread? The latter one now supersedes the other anyways.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

It sounds like this is going to happen, and probably soon too.

Probably for the best. This team has too many distractions around it right now. It'd be nice to finish out this year just letting anyone still on this team after the trade deadline just compete their hearts out and not worry about anything else. Make a case for a place on this team next year.

I think this capitulation by Jersey means they'll likely be able to make a deal, but I don't think you'll see Mercer involved. Sounds like they just don't want to let him go.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Vanacek coming back would hardly be a problem in my eyes.

1 year left at $3M. You could retain and flip on him, you could buy him out, you could waive him. I’d say no problem on that front.

If it's Vanecek or Salary Retention then I'd much prefer Vanecek.

Protection for Wolf, still a potential tradeable asset, and it's only 1 year instead of 2 seasons.

[Radio]

Doesn't sound to me like retention is a sticking point for the Flames, it's retention is too pricey for NJ.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Vanacek is also a good tandem goalie, he is not some junk coming our way either.

We need to make this trade now. The locker room already is defeated not sure what he is worried about.

Agreed. He was good for them last season.

Markstrom was in a similar situation a year ago.

I have no problem with taking back an NHLer that can play tandem with the kid. And I've suspected all along that Vladar is moving on in the offseason.

As for the locker room being "defeated", I think that's blowing things way out of proportion. I don't think that's the case, nor reason to rush a trade along. Good thing Conroy isn't going to.

[Paulie Walnuts]

What does a zero retention deal look like.

Holtz and a 2nd for Markstrom ?

[CSharp]

Just get'er done and move on!

[Remember1989]

Conroy couldn’t now proceed to deal Marky without suffering some significant credibility hull damage though right?

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Remember1989

Conroy couldn’t now proceed to deal Marky without suffering some significant credibility hull damage though right?

Not really. Things change all the time, and it only happens if Markstrom wants it to happen.

[Ashasx]

I'm sorry, but this is so unbelievably frustrating.

The Flames need to capitalize on being bad this season and next. You are about to trade Hanifin. You already traded Tanev. These players are not stupid. The room is gutted with or without Markstrom.

The Flames need to capitalize on his value right now because it simply will never be higher. If you can get more than a 1st round pick for an asset you thought had negative value 12 months ago, you have to do it. It is unlikely they get anything close to that in the offseason and beyond.

Finishing 20th overall in the league is not that different from finishing 25th.

[SemicolonD]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

What does a zero retention deal look like.

Holtz and a 2nd for Markstrom ?

Get it done

Holtz is what we need about 10 times more than Markstrom at this point of the teams lifecycle. 2nd is just gravy. And no arguing over what retention is worth.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I'm sorry, but this is so unbelievably frustrating.

The Flames need to capitalize on being bad this season and next. You are about to trade Hanifin. You already traded Tanev. These players are not stupid. The room is gutted with or without Markstrom.

The Flames need to capitalize on his value right now because it simply will never be higher. If you can get more than a 1st round pick for an asset you thought had negative value 12 months ago, you have to do it. It is unlikely they get anything close to that in the offseason and beyond.

Finishing 20th overall in the league is not that different from finishing 25th.

It just has to happen. It's too damn logical to trade Markstrom at this point.

Wolf and Vladdy are here, and Conroy is all about clearing space for younger players and trying to correct the deficit spending that Treliving ran for so many years...trading Markstrom is such a slam dunk "W" in my eyes.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Remember1989

Conroy couldn’t now proceed to deal Marky without suffering some significant credibility hull damage though right?

Lol

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yup. You let everyone know that he and Vladar are both available, and one will get moved.

If there is not interest in either, you can buy him out.

Valdar would have been gone long ago if it were that easy to just get rid of mediocre to bad goalies with bad AAVs.

If they move Markstrom ahead of the deadline, this team absolutely needs to prioritize getting Wolf into a lot of games down the stretch to help with acclimation to the NHL ahead of next season and not messing around with 2 goalies that aren't the future of this team or likely getting any better.

It would be a shame if Wolf doesn't get at least a decent run of 7-8 starts in the final 12-15 games to really see how he settles in at this level.

[dino7c]

Vladar has been very solid lately