As much as we are going to blame just the Sens games if the Flames don't make it the Sens have won 4 of 7 vs. Montreal too.
Flames could have easily picked up another 5+ wins so far, so many blown leads close losses
Someone on radio mentioned the failure to score an ENG against the Leafs one game - they score and win in OT. That’s a lost win. There’s a bunch of similar ones.
Someone on radio mentioned the failure to score an ENG against the Leafs one game - they score and win in OT. That’s a lost win. There’s a bunch of similar ones.
Tonight was trending that way, but instead of a good effort lost by some bad bounce, they found the next gear and put the Habs away. They didn't have that same year or killer instinct under Ward.
That said, even though it seems so long ago now, but the mandated 5 day break they had after being on a roll to start the year, took a lot of wind out of their sails and lost 3 in a row after starting off winning 3 in a row.
Had the Flames played 2 games that next week instead of a break, and continued that roll and then had the break the next week, even if the rest of the season played out as it has, that would have them ahead of MTL right now.
Lots of what ifs but if they keep playing this way and rolling 4 lines most of the game, they'll have a good chance these next 10 - 14 days, which will make or break the season.
I think Leivo will end up signing with the Canadiens next year.
I still don't think the Flames will make it. Even if they sweep the Habs, I don't trust the Oilers to play the Habs hard to allow the Flames to make it. Plus the Leafs will probably be resting players by that time as well.
However, I want the team to keep playing well and pushing for wins, develop those winning habits and winning culture. Even if they don't make it this year, I want them use to Sutter hockey so they are ready to go next season. It's not all about this year, it's about the next two years as well.
As for the higher draft pick, in this year without a franchise player at the top, it really doesn't matter where you finish in the lottery. You are just as likely to draft a star in the 15 spot as you are in the 1 spot.
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Objects in rearview mirror may be closer than they appear
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Win the next two and prepare for the playoffs. Lose the next two and prepare for the demise.
How apocalyptic does it sound?
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Sounds right to me.
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Time To Douse The Flames
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In 2018-19 Habs controlled their fate down the stretch and then had losses against Carolina and Columbus. Now we're in the same spot with these games against Calgary. Time for the team to show they mean business.
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Let's go Habs!!!! Time to secure a playoff spot.
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This will be a playoff game tonight for Calgary.
I expect them to have a very strong start and Habs will have to match their sense of urgency.
EVerybody will need to bring their A game......B game is the hope for Drouin.
For some reason, I expect this game to go in overtime. Too much of an important game to see a blowout.
Since they played last night, it might give us the edge at least if we stop them in the 1st period
This is going to be a good game
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A big 5 game series coming up against the Flames. 2 this week, 3 more starting next Friday.
HUGE.
Thank the heavens Dom doesn't still have KK on the wing and Staal at 2C.
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Almost 2 must win games if they are serious about making the playoffs
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5/9 games are against the Flames. We need to win 3 of them. If we loose 3 or 4, we are in a dead heat for that 4th spot.
Tonight's game is a back to back for the Flames. Loose this one and it won't feel good. Habs need to show up cause the Flames are going to play loose for the rest of the year
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Next two are must wins. Expecting playoff intensity from the boys.
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All our games with Vancouver and Calgary are must win. Doesn't matter what we do against other teams. These are 4 point games that will secure our playoff spot. Smack these fools down and let's slap the leafs in the playoffs.
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They are sensing that this is the big one.
Dump and chase tonight. HARD. Only way to win. This will be Scorey Perry's type of Western Conference game. Not many openings, grinding, slow paced.
PPs and PKs will be crucial.
Win those two games and plan for series. That's key.
The Usual Suspect
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Welcome Matthew Tkachuk ....not
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#### Matthew Tkachuk.
No reason in particular.
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I keep waiting for Weber to knock that mouth piece out of his yap, both him and his little brother!!
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I think it become pretty obvious that Brady is the better Tkachuk.
Powerforwarding like it’s 2011
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Lucic: [repeatedly punching hab]
ref: ¯\(ツ)/¯
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Get ####ed Looch
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Lucic = P.O.S.
Go pound salt Looch,,,,,
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Flux Lucix
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Lucic looks like he got stung in the face by 40 bees
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Sutter playing Lucic 30 min tonight or what
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I will always loath Lucic. Forever.
Darryling it Up
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After watching Calgary shut down Toronto last night I am very concerned that the Habs are going to have a tough time against this team. They put 5 players in the neutral zone and play the most boring trap game.
I hate this team and alot of their players.
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Calgary owns us. Their style fits perfectly against us.
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Every game against Calgary is boring, #### Sutter Hockey
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Yay Sutter hockey for the next 5 out of 8 Hab games. We'll likely never want to see the Flames play ever again after this stretch.
I just went and brought a sod in from the backyard to watch the grass grow on it in case I need something more exciting to watch tonight.
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Yeah, LA was not easy to watch during sutter's run either, but it's a highly effective style if you have the horses to play that way, and those horses buy in.
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calgary is just going to keep playing 4 guys in front of markstrom. it's anti-hockey, but ducharme not making adjustments and still too many cookies afraid to score greasy goals
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We're getting trapped to death already.
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In the last 5 periods, we spent maybe 80% of the time in our zone.
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The Flames are playing like a team that knows their season is in jeopardy and we have no answer.
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uggggggh
can't get anything done against that f***ing team
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Calgary is playing like the more desperate team we should have expected this
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Well.
This is 100% the game I expected.
Flames are playing the same way they did in Calgary a few weeks ago. We don't have any answer against that style.
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Would it really surprise anyone if the Flames did win all 5 games remaining against the Habs. The Habs just don't play well against teams who play like the Sens and Flames.
Stat Anomaly
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Jake Allen is 95.1% and 1.52 GAA against the Flames this season.
Sadly, he's 0-2-0 during those games.......team owe him a big one tonight.
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...Jake Allen is 0-2 versus the Flames this season despite a 1.52 goals against average and a .951 save percentage against them. (TSN)
A Special Boogeyman, just for you!
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Oh look Markstrom which equals guaranteed loss
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Habs can't score on Markstrom
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Yeah. In 3 games against mtl, Markstrom has a 0.67 GA (!!!!) and a .975 SV%
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Is Markstrom playing ? Could be hard to beat them, and a very tight game
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Just saw that Markstrom is playing.... eeps
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Moneypuck.com says Markstrom in net, oh boy...
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I hope I am proven wrong but Markstrom is habitually having easy games against the Habs
Hanifin pulling a Theoden
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And so it begins
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So it begins.
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Imagine having a hanifin on the habs
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Hanifin from the point.
1-0.
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Need to snap a goalless drought? I have the team
For you!
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we are just so dog#### in our zone
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Why can't our defencemen hit the net like that?
A-Strugglin’ in the Dots
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Face off !ost
Face off lost
Face off lost
Face off lost
Goal
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cant win a faceoff...
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Perhaps win a f***ing faceoff?
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Need to win a face-off. Lost 3 in a row in our own zone.
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Crucial face off loss tabarnak.. everytime
This the game we cant afford to lose en plus
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It's actually hilarious now.
We lose faceoffs like our center is not even there.
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Holy ####ing #### that was pathetic
3 clean face off wins
Nobody can tell me that faceoffs don't matter
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It was 4 clean wins actually lol
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WTF? Our centermen are pathetic and they cost us a goal.
edit: Point remains... win a ####ing faceoff!
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Win a ####ing face off you losers
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Well I guess maybe you shouldn't lose 73 faceoffs in a row
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Win. The. Draw. Please.
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Another lost face off in our zone
sheesh
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We won a faceofff....then iced the puck
LOL
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Did we just win a faceoff and ice the puck?!?
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I yelled "Yes" followed by "Are you f***ing kidding me?" lol
Another Young N’ Fresh Shot
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Lolololol
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This team can #### off
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Man 2 goals from the point... brutal
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That’s some atrocious ####.
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Tell me again……which team played last night?
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1st minute goal special is back.
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LOL keep screening our own goalie boys!
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Most important game of the season as of right now and this is the show we have the pleasure to watch
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Block the shot or get out of the way please
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Lol ... they’re scrambling.
this is a pathetic display of “desperation” hockey.
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Calgary would sweep Montreal in a 7 game series
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We have 3 goals in our last 4 games vs CGY
Weber E Coyote
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Lol Weber wtf is that
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A pass to Markstrom.
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Love Weber’s deadly 18mph wrist shot there. Thank god everyone is still alive. 6’4 240 and you let go a wrister
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Come on Weber is that the best you have?
Just a flip to the net?! Geezus ...
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wow nice shot Weber , no traffic light shot in the chest.
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Is Weber aware that theres a middle ground between a 100mph bomb and a muffin wrister?
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Weber is just terrible. He's a #5 or 6 at this point... should be playing 12 min a game with no PP.
Leivo with some Insurance
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Lmao game over
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Le Vieu Veber Sucks and Blows
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Shea is finished great pass to nobody turns into a goal.
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All of because of that f***ing idiot Webers pass to uhhh... NO ONE
Oh my god this guy
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What a bunch of overrated and overpaid bums. The Habs don’t deserve to make the playoffs.
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Well that's that. Not looking promising for the other 4 Sutter games........
Night all.
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Idk who was worse during that sequence, Drouin or Weber
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So Perry turnover at center ice, Weber d-zone giveaway that leads to a goal.
Surely both players will be benched for the rest of the game and then relegated to the 4th line and 3rd pairing for a month, right?
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Honestly, if this is the kind of hockey the Habs are going to play, I’d rather they don’t make the playoffs for the sake of the integrity of playoff hockey.
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Weber messes up an easy outlet pass, then on the ensuing play in our zone because it doesn't get out, turn the puck over to let a Flame come in alone...
Yikes...
Do we need to find a partner for him or get rid of him?
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Weber made 2 f***ing turnovers on that goal , why did he shoot the f***ing puck in the board when he had a straight f***ing line to Danault or even Kulak behind him.
Weber is f***ing brainless.
Mony into the EN, finally!
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Embarassing
i don’t know if it is coaching, management or the leadership group but this is embarassing. The inconsistency this season is embarassing. And yes Calgary is playing great but come on. This happens way too often. Where is the "speedy" team? Our 4 centers are not known for their speed and our defense…..well that answers itself. Toffoli, Perry? No speed there. A poorly constructed team. But hey, everything is ok! Were in a playoff spot.
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Just got in. I see we suck again. All is right in the world
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I feel guilty for blaming Claude Julien for this mess. I didnt learn my lesson when I would bash Michel Therrien. It isnt coaching. Its management. Its scouting. Its the poor team construction since Mr.Biceps has been GM. It has been this way since 2012. He had one good run with a prime Max Pacioretty, PK Subban, Carey Price and a game Andrei Markov. Inherited players. Does he win trades? Much more than he loses imo. But his team structure and his view of the "optimal team" just does not work. (Case in point: a d corps FULL of slow, lumbering players.)
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"Let's dump the puck in the corner where we have 0 guys." - Habs 2021
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Even at 6 on 5. They arent better than the flames. Putrid how this team lack of skill
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If Markstrom gets hot, the Flames can upset the Leafs in the playoffs.
Le Stinque
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Nice flop by Gio.
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**** off gio
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Cockroaches live to play another day. Lol Habs
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The Habs stink worse than the streets of Paris.
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Montreal really choking against Calgary. Had so many chances to push them down. Think they lost their last three to Calgary
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I really don't think they are anywhere near done. They're now 4-1 against the Habs so far this year and it seems like Montreal has let them into their heads to nest. There's still a month of hockey to play. Montreal needs to win all 3 games in hand to improve their likelihood. Unless those three in-hand games happen to be against the Oilers, my confidence is low they'll be able to do it.
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Watching this game, not sure how/why Calgary seems to match up against TML and the Habs so much better than the Oil, given the difference in players and skill. One thing I see is that the flames are tight checking against these guys whereas the Oilers are more free wheeling and don’t check as close.
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Montreal faces us like 4 more times so Calgary is still screwed
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I think Leivo will end up signing with the Canadiens next year.
I still don't think the Flames will make it. Even if they sweep the Habs, I don't trust the Oilers to play the Habs hard to allow the Flames to make it. Plus the Leafs will probably be resting players by that time as well.
However, I want the team to keep playing well and pushing for wins, develop those winning habits and winning culture. Even if they don't make it this year, I want them use to Sutter hockey so they are ready to go next season. It's not all about this year, it's about the next two years as well.
As for the higher draft pick, in this year without a franchise player at the top, it really doesn't matter where you finish in the lottery. You are just as likely to draft a star in the 15 spot as you are in the 1 spot.
If the Oilers throw all the games against the Habs, they risk playing the Leafs in the first round or missing the playoffs entirely. Not sure they want to risk it just to spite the Flames.
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Hopefully you understand why your anti-Sutter posts annoyed me, as well as the attempt to use a bad 7-game stretch to paint him in the worst possible light while ignoring his 2 (almost 3) Stanley Cups. Also your posts got quite a number of thanks, so I was worried about how prevalent that kind of "reasoning" was among the fanbase.
But let's move on from this silliness and focus on positives now. Yay Flames!
It is against my better judgment to continue this but are you not the same poster who was annoyed by "told ya so" posts about Gio in the game thread?
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These "told ya so" comments are getting rather silly... there's more to being a $6.75m defenseman than having a nice shot from the point and good stick work.
Yup you were.
Frankly I find any told ya so posts annoying but if you are going to dish them out, you have to be willing to take them too.
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If the Oilers throw all the games against the Habs, they risk playing the Leafs in the first round or missing the playoffs entirely. Not sure they want to risk it just to spite the Flames.
It's also bad karma to do stuff like that, but I have the worst opinion of that franchise and City so I'm expecting it. Edmonton is no good.
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It is against my better judgment to continue this but are you not the same poster who was annoyed by "told ya so" posts about Gio in the game thread?
Originally Posted by Mathgod View Post
These "told ya so" comments are getting rather silly... there's more to being a $6.75m defenseman than having a nice shot from the point and good stick work.
Yup you were.
Frankly I find any told ya so posts annoying but if you are going to dish them out, you have to be willing to take them too.
Not all told ya so posts are equal.
There's nothing wrong with a told ya so post, as long as the reasoning behind it is sound and the facts behind it are correct. In the case of Gio, people were trying to use his offensive production as a counter point to my argument that he hasn't been playing well enough this year, on the whole, to either thrust his team into a playoffs spot or justify his cap hit. Does he lead the team's defensemen in points? Yes, he does. But he's currently 31st in the NHL among defensemen in points, and his GA/60 this year leaves quite a bit to be desired.
So was his goal today some kind of "told ya so". No, it isn't. Neither are his career numbers - they're an indication of the player he was, not the player he is.
Tonight's game is a back to back for the Flames. Loose this one and it won't feel good. Habs need to show up cause the Flames are going to play loose for the rest of the year
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There's nothing wrong with a told ya so post, as long as the reasoning behind it is sound and the facts behind it are correct. In the case of Gio, people were trying to use his offensive production as a counter point to my argument that he hasn't been playing well enough this year, on the whole, to either thrust his team into a playoffs spot or justify his cap hit. Does he lead the team's defensemen in points? Yes, he does. But he's currently 31st in the NHL among defensemen in points, and his GA/60 this year leaves quite a bit to be desired.
So was his goal today some kind of "told ya so". No, it isn't. Neither are his career numbers - they're an indication of the player he was, not the player he is.
Ah so you are the great judger of what is a valid "told ya so" post?
In my view the situations are very similar. People prematurely writing off someone. Sutter or Gio.
Gio hasn't played well this year but
- He's played much better of late
- He's still one of the Flames top 4 dmen
He's also a guy I would not write off. Not a guy who had to go all the way to Russia to show what he could do. Not the guy that went undrafted and would go on to win the Norris trophy. Nope not him.
Moreover, I could pull dozens and dozens of posts from this season that range from be an exaggeration of his bad play to down right disrespectful given what he's done for this franchise. Stuff like he should be scratched, have the C stripped, or that him continuing to play is a sign of the lack of accountability.
So yeah maybe some of the people that said he was "done" deserve a little bit of TYS.
I just find it hypocritical that you would blast folks about Gio in the GT then go back and pull a random post from a frustrated poster after a bad game about Sutter - because of a modest 3 game winning streak.
Dish it. Take it.
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