Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Torture

RE: video
Rebecca Shultz would know a lot about middle management having to do what they're told I guess.

I would hope most voters would understand this is no different for any party....remember how Kenney was forced to disappear like the groundhog he is during the last federal election?

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Yikes

I have farmers in my family (west of Innisfail) and you are exactly correct but until that time it looks like my rural family/friends will vote NDP to keep Smith out of power. Farmers like straight talk, not bull####. The Smith is the solution following is not so much in the farming communities but the towns.

Rural voters in my family too. They don't have time for the UCP bull#### and are also voting NDP. UCP may win the rural ridings, but it might not be the landslide many think.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

The NDP needs to really start pointing these sorts of things out.

I've almost wondered in if you could frame a writ period around 30 terrible things the UPC has done in 30 days. I'm certain you could find 30 things with virtually no constituency that they have done.

But I'm not sure if that is too muddles / high level of a messaging campaign for the general public.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by #-3

I've almost wondered in if you could frame a writ period around 30 terrible things the UPC has done in 30 days. I'm certain you could find 30 things with virtually no constituency that they have done.

But I'm not sure if that is too muddles / high level of a messaging campaign for the general public.

With 30 counter points of what the NDP would do. One point I'd love to see is:

Cancel the war-room and publish a public report accounting for every nickel spent in that FOIPless dumpster fire

[Yikes]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

With 30 counter points of what the NDP would do. One point I'd love to see is:

Cancel the war-room and publish a public report accounting for every nickel spent in that FOIPless dumpster fire

Is there any way that the public can find out just how much Federal and Provincial covid funding Smith/husband received personally and business(s). I'm sure the two of them were at the trough and now of course the Feds are the enemy.

[The Big Chill]

There are multiple people in my extended family that have spent years and years bashing liberals and NDP. I don’t think there is any way they would ever vote NDP, no matter what the UCP did. I really don’t think there is anything UCP could do that would turn them into NDP voters.

It’s seems crazy to me because these are people that are usually quite logical, but they’ve taken a stance so hard against woke lefties that there just isn’t a way that they could justify voting anything but conservative. It’s scary because I think there are an enormous amount of people in Alberta who are locked into a vote like that.

[MBates]

Originally Posted by fuzz

https://www.alberta.ca/release.cfm?x...be70a28756d871

i'm curious on the "takes back". Is there any validity to that? Can they just decide they are now writing the laws on federal jurisdiction, or was it never federal? Or is this just them making stuff up becuase #### everything?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603583725295775744

[Locke]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

There are multiple people in my extended family that have spent years and years bashing liberals and NDP. I don’t think there is any way they would ever vote NDP, no matter what the UCP did. I really don’t think there is anything UCP could do that would turn them into NDP voters.

It’s seems crazy to me because these are people that are usually quite logical, but they’ve taken a stance so hard against woke lefties that there just isn’t a way that they could justify voting anything but conservative. It’s scary because I think there are an enormous amount of people in Alberta who are locked into a vote like that.

I think those people need a reality check.

Realistically Politics should be more like Professional Sports.

"What have you done for me lately?"

I loathed the NDP. I thought they made almost every mistake in the book and hadn't the slightest clue as to what they were doing until it was too late.

However the UCP clowns have made the NDP look like consummate professionals.

Your Vote always, always, should be for sale. Not necessarily for money but for whomever you think is going to do the best for you and the place you live right now.

At the moment it would take a mid to high-level miracle for me to vote UCP. I am talking about resurrecting a more-than-slightly-respected loved one or a seriously considerable amount of water into wine.

Personally I think the second they swapped leaders and went into full-on BS Libertarian mode then the Official Opposition should have been placed in Government until an election could be held or, an election should have been called immediately.

At least the Official Opposition is there by Albertan Elected mandate.

The UCP Leadership swap where a new leader was appointed by the merest of margins switching a moron for a psychopath?

No way. And Notley should stand up and flat out tell Albertans that this 'mid-term' Leadership Bait and Switch BS will never happen again. Legislate this nonsense out of existence. This is Bush-League Banana Republic BS.

I'd certainly vote for that.

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603528341797359616

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603528361707720704

Interesting tweet thread.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Locke

I think those people need a reality check.

Realistically Politics should be more like Professional Sports.

"What have you done for me lately?"

Politics is like professional sports, except that conservatives are the diehard fans that won't abandon their "team" no matter what

[PsYcNeT]

DELETE wrong thread; phoneposting

[KTrain]

Originally Posted by Locke

Realistically Politics should be more like Professional Sports.

I agree with a lot of what you said except for this.

This the last thing politics should be.

People will cheer for a team, year in and year out, regardless of whether they suck or not. They see a couple guys on the team changed between seasons and think “That’s it, we’re good now.”

We don’t need team loyalty, regardless of who is on your team. We saw it with the Flames. Bertuzzi joined the team and people cheered for him, after we all hated him so much and his dirty playing. “Oh, he’s changed, he’s a Flame now. He got that driving another man’s skull into the ice out of his system, so it’s ok to cheer for him now.”

People don’t switch favourite teams very often. If we want politics to be like pro-sports, sports fans should be cheering for whatever team is showing the most skill and effort on any given night. They should be cheering for the team that supports their fans and community the most.

A lot of people pick their political party like they pick their sports teams. My Dad liked them so I do too. I was born in the city that cheers for them. They’ve won a lot so I like them. Doesn’t matter that they cheated to win (Patriots, Astros).

Sports fandom is the least rational thing we want politics to be like.

[Fuzz]

For the record, I never cheered for Bertuzzi.

[surferguy]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

For the record, I never cheered for Bertuzzi.

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Don't blame me, I voted for Kang!

Yeah but you also voted for Kang.

[CroCop]

Sports analogy- voting Ndp would be like cheering for the Oilers.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CroCop

Sports analogy- voting Ndp would be like cheering for the Oilers.

What? The UCP is the one living off the glory days of the past, with decades of failure following. They own themselves regularly, with their own "media" personalities boosting every idiotic move they make. The UCP couldn't be more Oilers if they tried.

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603774411655598080

Alberta to take over firearms prosecutions from the feds.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603528341797359616

https://twitter.com/user/status/1603528361707720704

Interesting tweet thread.

I was hoping the LG would refuse to give consent. I know that she basically had no option, an I'm not getting into the legality or anything like that. I just think it would be so hilarious if a "Sovereignty Act" couldn't be law because they couldn't get assent. I'm totally here for the chaos and irrationality a situation like that would've caused.

[Fuzz]

I think the courts are the correct place to decide this, not the LG.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I think the courts are the correct place to decide this, not the LG.

Yeah, I don't disagree. But imagine the LG said "no". It would've been so fascinating.