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Old 08-11-2017, 09:56 AM   #201
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I think the bullying goes both ways... Jess and Cody had lots to do with it too.
Cody did in the beginning of the season but IMO Jessica never really bullied anyone (I'm not privy to the after dark feeds) outside of the names this week she called Josh. It can't be a good feeling being in a house for a month knowing nobody likes you and I feel she handled things pretty well overall as she looks like a pretty strong and independent woman as it's not like she moped and cried the whole time about her situation like many women on the show have done over the years. She was fierce and fought hard so I can overlook some of her immaturity given the situation she was in. Her issue was aligning with Cody as there's simply no way anyone can align with a person like that and remain a popular figure. Had he not been in the house I feel she could have been a pretty good game player.

I think it's been a pretty good season. The producers have done a good job improving the competitions and there's been plenty of drama.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:00 AM   #202
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I like Mark. Kevin is entertaining.

Christmas is bat #### crazy. And a total loser if you have seen any of the feeds. Her only redeeming quality IMO is she actually has a little bit of game play. Mark has also realized what is going on. If Cody wins temptation or veto this week might get interesting. But I doubt it.
So maybe Cody was right about Christmas after all? The guy is smart but he simply lacks the social skills to play this game. I'm surprised he passed all the interviews to get picked to be a contestant given how cold and distant a person he is.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:23 AM   #203
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I read that Cody was cast by production from the Survivor candidates... they wanted someone who could compete with Paul.

Makes a lot of sense why he's there, and how the battle back was so obviously tailored for him to win.

BUT I think he really got screwed by production. And he must be upset about it. Look at his first week HOH when he had to nominate 5 people. And he had a perfect plan to get Paul out only to be foiled by some secret power production had manipulated for Paul. Oh and then this past week he and Jess make a great plan (that honestly, they have a good chance of pulling off) only for him to be screwed by production again (Xmas ring of replacement is conveniently remembered). No wonder he cried. CBS has really given him a very unfair chance. He could have been one of the best players of all time if only he wasn't solely focused on Paul.

To people who say Jess and Cody were the only likable houseguests... watch some youtube clips about their opinions on things. They have gotten a bad "villain" cut from CBS, and they are not the most dis-likable people in the house, but they are far from likable. It's a really terrible bunch of bad people this year. But it is entertaining.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:29 AM   #204
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I read that Cody was cast by production from the Survivor candidates... they wanted someone who could compete with Paul.

Makes a lot of sense why he's there, and how the battle back was so obviously tailored for him to win.

BUT I think he really got screwed by production. And he must be upset about it. Look at his first week HOH when he had to nominate 5 people. And he had a perfect plan to get Paul out only to be foiled by some secret power production had manipulated for Paul. Oh and then this past week he and Jess make a great plan (that honestly, they have a good chance of pulling off) only for him to be screwed by production again (Xmas ring of replacement is conveniently remembered). No wonder he cried. CBS has really given him a very unfair chance. He could have been one of the best players of all time if only he wasn't solely focused on Paul.

To people who say Jess and Cody were the only likable houseguests... watch some youtube clips about their opinions on things. They have gotten a bad "villain" cut from CBS, and they are not the most dis-likable people in the house, but they are far from likable. It's a really terrible bunch of bad people this year. But it is entertaining.
The problem with week 1 is that Paul would not have been voted out even if he didn't have the power. Jess even admitted that they would not have had the votes and anyone who was up against him would have gone home. Mainly because people were fans of his.

But the 3 weeks safety was specifically designed for Paul in case the newbies were actually smart and got the vet out first. Which is stupid.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:39 AM   #205
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There's articles going around that some of the HGs were accusing Jessica of sexual assault as she was routinely sticking her finger up people's asses when they were looking. Paul apparently complained to production and said that if a male was doing that, that they would be charged.
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Old 08-11-2017, 10:50 AM   #206
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There's articles going around that some of the HGs were accusing Jessica of sexual assault as she was routinely sticking her finger up people's asses when they were looking. Paul apparently complained to production and said that if a male was doing that, that they would be charged.
They all have been doing it, but TMZ ran with it as jess only.

In fact, Paul did it to Josh last night while Jason held him down.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:41 PM   #207
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Can someone elaborate why Christmas is crazy and a bad person?

I've only watched the feeds a few times and haven't noticed anything.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:55 PM   #208
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I think she might have been the one who questioned Cody's military record. But I think a few houseguests were in on that. It was petty and mean but hardly makes her crazy.

Just lots of talk about how she seems loopy on her painkillers a lot and that she's one of the few people who isn't a puppet for Paul.

Lots about other people. Cody is a serial killer, Jess is a stuck up bully, Raven is a hypochondriac and an attention whore, Matt is disgusting (look for the hand towel story), Paul is power crazy, Jason has made several disgusting remarks about Jessica being a glorified escort and so on and so forth.

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Old 08-11-2017, 02:15 PM   #209
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Cody is better suited for survivor instead of big brother. He could likely at least make merge due to his physical prowess and then could go on an immunity run. Big brother is about long term relationships which are created by social ability in which he has none of.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:14 PM   #210
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I looked this up. These people do realize they're being watched by cameras and people all the time, right?
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:31 PM   #211
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Cody did in the beginning of the season but IMO Jessica never really bullied anyone (I'm not privy to the after dark feeds) outside of the names this week she called Josh. It can't be a good feeling being in a house for a month knowing nobody likes you and I feel she handled things pretty well overall as she looks like a pretty strong and independent woman as it's not like she moped and cried the whole time about her situation like many women on the show have done over the years. She was fierce and fought hard so I can overlook some of her immaturity given the situation she was in. Her issue was aligning with Cody as there's simply no way anyone can align with a person like that and remain a popular figure. Had he not been in the house I feel she could have been a pretty good game player.

I think it's been a pretty good season. The producers have done a good job improving the competitions and there's been plenty of drama.
Jessica gets a very generous edit. She's as big a bully as there is. She'd also be (or should be) arrested for sexual assault if they were just in the general public.

She has never responsible for anything and it's obvious she has never held herself accountable for anything. She's a very selfish person and has a brutal social game for something like big brother. She could enter 100 of these and lose 100 times.
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Old 08-11-2017, 08:38 PM   #212
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Mark and Cody are onto Paul, so I'm rooting for them
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Old 08-11-2017, 08:52 PM   #213
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I looked this up. These people do realize they're being watched by cameras and people all the time, right?
What the hell did I just watch? Pretty disgusting cleaning himself but it you watch it to the end he puts the towel on the floor, folds it and takes the side that was touching the floor and wipes the counter down with it. That was seriously messed up from beginning to end.
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Wait, you're aware he was cleaning jizz from his stomach right? The floor is the least of the worries here.
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Old 08-13-2017, 06:35 PM   #215
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It might be too late by the time you read this but for anyone who PVRs big brother, golf went late so you're only going to get half an episode if your PVR stops on time.
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Frustrating episode. Cody can't understand why he won't win. Dude, even if you won temptation or veto, it doesn't matter. You are refusing to play any social game. You aren't gonna win veto or HOH for the rest of the season.

And to see that idiot Alex and ringmaster Paul try trash talk Kevin just for speaking to Cody. Paul's reasoning was moronic and Kevin saw right through it. Paul had no answer for it either.

God I hope Cody goes home and Mark or Elena win HOH and Paul and Alex end up on the block.

But really I think we all know Mark, Elena, Matt and Raven will be next out. Followed by Jason and Josh. Kevin, Paul, Alex and Kevin final 4.
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Cody is just a terrible game player. Like come on buddy. These sheep are not going to get rid of Paul. Need to focus your energy elsewhere. Could probably buy yourself a week or two if you went after Mark or Elena. He really has some weird obsession with fighting with Paul.
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:32 PM   #218
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Frustrating episode. Cody can't understand why he won't win. Dude, even if you won temptation or veto, it doesn't matter. You are refusing to play any social game. You aren't gonna win veto or HOH for the rest of the season.

And to see that idiot Alex and ringmaster Paul try trash talk Kevin just for speaking to Cody. Paul's reasoning was moronic and Kevin saw right through it. Paul had no answer for it either.

God I hope Cody goes home and Mark or Elena win HOH and Paul and Alex end up on the block.

But really I think we all know Mark, Elena, Matt and Raven will be next out. Followed by Jason and Josh. Kevin, Paul, Alex and Kevin final 4.
Assume Christmas is one of those Kevin's haha
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Assume Christmas is one of those Kevin's haha
Haha. Yeah. Christmas.
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I assume Cody doesn't like Paul because Paul has been viewed as top dog from day #1 and Cody based on his personality always sees himself as top dog.

Cody is much better geared towards Survivor than Big Brother, his social game consists of him avoiding people 98% of the time and then angrily venting to whoever comes into the have-not room.

He has the right idea with convincing everyone that Paul is running the house (he is) but it's way too late, and his lack of a social game means he will go home unless he can win safety.

Mark and Elena are next unless they can make a move. At least Mark admits he flip flops every week but still not a great game move.
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