08-09-2017, 10:07 PM
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#441
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuk
Bennett-Backlund-Frolik
Ferland-Jankowski-Versteeg
Stajan-Lazar-Brouwer
Foo/Hamilton
Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Hamonic
Kulak-Stone
Wotherspoon
Smith
Lack
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08-09-2017, 11:19 PM
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#442
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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I thought the idea when Lazar was acquired was to play him with Bennett. I think they'll get some time together early.
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08-10-2017, 05:13 AM
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#443
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
I thought the idea when Lazar was acquired was to play him with Bennett. I think they'll get some time together early.
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Hmmmm, first I've heard of it. Tkachuk-Bennett-Lazar would be an interesting line though.
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08-21-2017, 10:53 AM
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#444
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Gaudreau-Monahan-Jagr
Tkachuk-Bennett-Ferland
Frolik-Backlund-Brouwer
Versteeg-Jankowski-Lazar
Stajan
Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Hamonic
Kulak-Stone
Wotherspoon
Smith
Lack
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08-21-2017, 10:58 AM
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#445
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik
Tkachuk - Bennett - Lazar
Versteeg - Stajan - Brouwer
Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie - Hamonic
Kulak - Stone
Smith
Lack
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... Eakins' claims Gagne's line played Kessel's line even...
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08-21-2017, 01:26 PM
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#446
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Scoring Winger
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Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland/Bennett
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Bennett/Ferland-Jankowski-Versteeg
Stajan-Lazar-Brouwer
Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie - Hamonic
Valimaki - Stone
Smith
Lack
Jankowski has an awesome summer, comes into camp on fire and pushes Bennett to the wing. Bennett also has an awesome summer, his chemistry with Versteeg continues from late last season and with Janko cantering them all three put up ~40 point seasons, giving the Flames arguably the best third line in the league. Valimaki surprises while also taking advantage of weak LD depth and gets 9 games to start the year (rotating out with Kulak) after which he is sent down to junior (captain of Finland's WJ team, big minutes etc.) because Kulak solidifies himself as a capable third pairing guy and Flames would prefer to delay the start of Valimaki's contract in light of the several D contracts coming due in three years time.
Last edited by prizefighterinferno; 08-21-2017 at 01:36 PM.
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08-22-2017, 02:24 PM
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#447
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Given all the Jagr rumors today I thought I would give this a shot again.
Gaudreau - Monahan – Jagr - Top scoring line, offensive zone starts
Tkachuk - Backlund – Frolik – Shut down line, defensive zone starts, if it isn’t broke don’t fix it
Ferland - Bennett – Lazar – Pain in the ass third line with lots of upside scoring potential
Versteeg - Stajan – Brouwer – Overpaid 4th line but still better than most 4 lines in the leauge
Jankowski/Hamilton/Foo or whoever does well in camp
Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie - Hamonic
Kulak – Stone
Bartkowski
Smith
Lack
If Jagr rumors turn out to be bogus I would go with this
Gaudreau - Monahan – Tkachuk - Top scoring line, offensive zone starts, Tkachuk give this line much needed grit
Jankowski - Backlund – Frolik – Shut down line, defensive zone starts, gives Jankowski a great line to mentor with
3rd/4th and defense unchanged.
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08-23-2017, 12:40 AM
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#448
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Just playing with line ups at this point
Gaudreau-Monahan-Jagr
Bennett-Backlund-Frolik
Tkachuk-Jankowski-Versteeg
Stajan-Lazar-Ferland
Or
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Jankowski-Backlund-Frolik
Tkachuk-Bennett-Jagr
Versteeg-Stajan-Lazar
Or
Gaudreau-Monahan-Jagr
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Lazar
Stajan-Jankowski-Ferland
I put Jagr in the line up and even with bias aside (I think) I keep ending up with Brouwer as the odd man out.
Last edited by Samonadreau; 08-23-2017 at 12:58 AM.
Reason: MonAhan
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08-23-2017, 12:51 AM
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#449
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
Just playing with line ups at this point
Gaudreau-Monohan-Jagr
Bennett-Backlund-Frolik
Tkachuck-Jankowski-Versteeg
Stajan-Lazar-Ferland
Or
Gaudreau-Monohan-Ferland
Jankowski-Backlund-Frolik
Tkachuk-Bennett-Jagr
Versteeg-Stajan-Lazar
Or
Gaudreau-Monohan-Jagr
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Benmet-Lazar
Stajan-Jankowski-Ferland
I put Jagr in the line up and even with bias aside (I think) I keep ending up with Brouwer as the odd man out.
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I don't mind the lineups, but Mon ahan
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08-23-2017, 12:56 AM
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#450
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FBI
I don't mind the lineups, but Monahan
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Good call. Just using the autofill on my phone and didnt even notice.
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08-23-2017, 02:03 AM
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#451
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Samonadreau
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Jankowski-Backlund-Frolik
Tkachuk-Bennett-Jagr
Versteeg-Stajan-Lazar
I put Jagr in the line up and even with bias aside (I think) I keep ending up with Brouwer as the odd man out.
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I think Janko is unlikely to make the team if we sign Jagr and all the forwards are healthy. That said the forwards are unlikely to be completely healthy exiting training camp. But let's pretend they are all healthy then IMO your second line would probably be
Frolik-Backlund-Brouwer
and Jankowski would be the first injury recall for a centre or maybe just in general
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09-01-2017, 10:16 AM
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#452
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Lifetime Suspension
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I feel like Bennett and Frolik should be a paring next season. Backlund and Tkachuk should be together as they just have a perfect sense for one another and they were the main cogs of the 3M line, and by putting Fro with Bennett we're giving him a legit top 6 forward that he could make skilled plays with, while also providing him with that defensively responsible presence that was absent in his time spent with Versteeg and Brouwer.
Main pairings: Gaudreau/Monahan - Backlund/Tkachuk - Bennett/Frolik
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lazar
Versteeg - Bennett - Frolik
Stajan - Jankowski - Brouwer
Wings could be all shuffled. Say we bring in Jagr:
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Frolik - Bennett - Jagr
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lazar
Versteeg - Jankowski - Brouwer
Stajan
Really deep team that also allows for a multitude of different combos and looks at 5v5, PK & PP
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09-01-2017, 12:35 PM
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#453
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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WITH JAGR
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Jagr
Lazar-Jankowski-Brouwer
Stajan, Hathaway
Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Hamonic
Stone-Kulak
Bartkowski
Smith
Lack
WITHOUT JAGR
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Jankowski
Lazar-Stajan-Brouwer
Hathaway, F.Hamilton
D and G stay the same
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09-01-2017, 12:42 PM
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#454
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
WITH JAGR
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Jagr
Lazar-Jankowski-Brouwer
Stajan, Hathaway
Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Hamonic
Stone-Kulak
Bartkowski
Smith
Lack
WITHOUT JAGR
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Jankowski
Lazar-Stajan-Brouwer
Hathaway, F.Hamilton
D and G stay the same
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I think this is right, except I'd probabky have Stajan starting over one of Lazar or Jankowski as the more realistic possibility (but the guy who's out would easily slot in for a healthy scratch or injury). Also, the coach seemed to prefer F. Hamilton over Hathaway by a slim margin last year. However, the loss of Engelland's fighting ability, plus Hathaway's contract might make Hathaway more attractive as an insertion.
Anyway, that's a nice looking team.
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09-01-2017, 01:19 PM
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#455
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Here's my list I'd like to see start.
Gaudreau--Monahan--Ferland
Jankowski--Backland--Frolik
Tkachuk--Bennett-- Lazar
Versteeg--Stajan-- Brouwer
Hathaway--Hamilton
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09-01-2017, 01:35 PM
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#456
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Whitefish, MT & Marysville B.C.
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Vulcan, I think this is a good line up too. I like rotating a rookie into the Backlund Frolik line with Jankowski. I also would like to see Tkachuk, Bennett and Lazar.
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09-01-2017, 01:36 PM
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#457
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Parkdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfman
Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuk
Bennett-Backlund-Frolik
Ferland-Jankowski-Versteeg
Stajan-Lazar-Brouwer
Foo/Hamilton
Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Hamonic
Kulak-Stone
Wotherspoon
Smith
Lack
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Yikes. That is weak bottom 6 by playoff contender standards.
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09-01-2017, 05:26 PM
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#458
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Duffalufagus
Yikes. That is weak bottom 6 by playoff contender standards.
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Really shows how important every dollar is in a cap world. One bad signing can really keep a team a tier below the true contenders.
One more star forward at $7.5mil would make a WORLD of difference in pushing the Flames to contender status vs Brouwer at $4.5m + $3mil in cap space that we have instead.
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09-01-2017, 05:48 PM
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#459
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fastpuck
Vulcan, I think this is a good line up too. I like rotating a rookie into the Backlund Frolik line with Jankowski. I also would like to see Tkachuk, Bennett and Lazar.
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Seems like too much of one thing
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09-01-2017, 06:29 PM
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#460
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Vancouver
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Most likely (less change)
Tkachuck-Backlund-Frolik
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Versteeg-Bennett-Brouwer
Lazar-Stajan-Hathaway
Possible (some change):
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Lazar-Backlund-Frolik
Tkachuck-Bennett-Versteeg
Brouwer-Stajan-Hathaway
Not likely
Gaudreau-Monahan-Jagr
Tkachuck-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Ferland
Hamilton-Lazar-Hathaway
I'm starting to see Tkachuck-Bennett as a Perry-Getzlaf lite combo in the making, much as Gaudrea-Monahan could be a Kane-Toews lite. I hope those two get playing time together early. I know its been wonderful for Tkachuck to play with Backlund, but at some point, he's going to need to drive the play from a different line.
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