Overall I could actually see Gritty doing it, it's part of his act at this point. But I also don't think he would cause significant damage and anything he would have done would have been in a playful way.
Plus the reports of this whole thing feels a little fishy.
Reports were he initially talked about having a great time at the event, then that evolved to complaining about the quality of the photo, to then complaining that his son was punched in the back even though nobody else has been able to corroborate that claim.
Honestly, I believe him or at the very least believe that the dad believes it happened. Maybe the intent was playful but depth perception is hard in those things, or maybe the person in the Gritty suit just had enough with fans messing with him. Maybe the 13 year old exaggerated the injury.
But the fact the dad has sought out the video, asked for witnesses, tried to receive an apology for more than a month, and then went to the police now. Those are actions of someone who believes he was right in my opinion. And on the other side, the Flyers offering him some really sweet perks (of course not admitting fault) wouldn't want to be a precedence the set for people they believe are blackmailing the team...
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If you search the Dad's name on facebook it seems pretty clear that he's trying to pull off a scam, and he's not very good at it.
He attended the event with thousands of others and to this point there doesn't happen to be anyone else who witnessed it.
After the event he made his profile picture a picture from the event which features Gritty, his kid, and himself. After the event he also posted numerous photos with the heading "Flyer's autograph party and skate. It was a great day with my little guy". 2 months later he makes these claims of the assault.
He has continued going to Flyer's games up until this point.
Gritty vs. Kid
Oling vs. His Mother?
We need a Thunderdome....stat!
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2 months later he makes these claims of the assault.
Well that post shown is December 5, 2019. Less than a week after the photoshoot.
Sounded like he made the accusation and both wanted witnesses and videos quickly after the alleged incident. I haven't seen anything else outside of this thread, so maybe you're right, but either one of those would have destroyed his case if it didn't happen.
Well that post shown is December 5, 2019. Less than a week after the photoshoot.
Sounded like he made the accusation and both wanted witnesses and videos quickly after the alleged incident. I haven't seen anything else outside of this thread, so maybe you're right, but either one of those would have destroyed his case if it didn't happen.
It didn't happen though, nobody else saw it. So ya, kind of destroyed his case. Not only that but everybody videos their kids on their phones for anything nowadays, I know I do. So he didn't? Seems weird.
He also claimed Gritty punched his son in the back as hard as he could. I am pretty sure if a big grown man punches a 13 year old in the back as hard as he can that is going to create a hell of a show. The kid would drop, people would be freaking out and yet nobody saw this? Come on...
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He also claimed Gritty punched his son in the back as hard as he could. I am pretty sure if a big grown man punches a 13 year old in the back as hard as he can that is going to create a hell of a show. The kid would drop, people would be freaking out and yet nobody saw this? Come on...
If a full grown man in a mascot suit punched my kid (or many others on this board I would guess) in the back as hard as they could, you're GD right there would be a show.
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It didn't happen though, nobody else saw it. So ya, kind of destroyed his case. Not only that but everybody videos their kids on their phones for anything nowadays, I know I do. So he didn't? Seems weird.
That's pretty much the exact argument the dad has though. "Every else had cameras but not this one specific area where it happened."
The guy asked for video, asked for witnesses, clearly indicating as much as possible to help get witnesses. I mean if fans #83 and #84 came in and said, "Yeah, we were there. Nothing happened except your kid slapping Gritty around." Then there goes that, but he still went looking for them.
I see it akin to a traffic accident where the person who's looking for cameras, asking for witnesses, and going to the police, probably thinks they were in the right. But instead of damage to a car, you got a 13 year old boy who was probably trying to get a day off school cause "his back was sore."
Also, yeah, I obviously don't believe that Gritty went full on Ivan Drogo vs Apollo Creed on the kid. But it is Philly.
If the guy is making it entirely up, then I hope the police charge him for falsifying a police report. But based on actions (in this thread), I think he thinks it happened. But probably closer to Gritty being Gritty and taking a little shot at a 13 year old who was annoying him because that's pretty much Gritty's schtick. If anything, I'm shocked that no one came forward and said they saw Gritty 'hit' a fan because he probably did it about 1000 times that day, or headlocked them and gave them a noogy, or any other jokingly physical assault that the fans would have loved and asked for.
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If a full grown man in a mascot suit punched my kid (or many others on this board I would guess) in the back as hard as they could, you're GD right there would be a show.
I'm not sure I would characterize the type of person that usually ends up in a mascot suit as a "full grown man".
Anyway, this incident has really cemented Gritty's street cred.
He also claimed Gritty punched his son in the back as hard as he could. I am pretty sure if a big grown man punches a 13 year old in the back as hard as he can that is going to create a hell of a show. The kid would drop, people would be freaking out and yet nobody saw this? Come on...
That's the thing that stood out to me the most
I wanted to believe the Dad, but reading about it now... yikes...
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As Brandon walked away, Gritty got out of his chair, “took a running start," and “punched my son as hard as he could," Greenwell said Wednesday.
But no witnesses ....whaaaaa?
But then...
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After the alleged punch, Greenwell emailed officials at Comcast Spectacor, first complaining of the “lousy picture” with the mascot who didn’t look at the camera. Then he raised the “more serious and disappointing” concern.
“I know it was not correct for my son to harmlessly tap him on his head but for a Flyers employee to get [sic] throw a full punch at someone with his back turned and hurt a 13 year old boy is assault, unprofessional and unacceptable for your organization,” he wrote.
...which is an odd way to approach their mascot taking a running punch at your child. I think that would have been handled right on the spot if I witnessed it. Odd that a bunch of PEOPLE FROM PHILLY didn't have any response or seem to notice the assault... and that it was item #2 in his concerns with Gritty...
His specific requests from the Flyers for violently assaulting his child also seem a bit light if I'm honest
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Greenwell suggested the Flyers show his son on the giant scoreboard or let him into the locker room to meet players and get autographs. The company offered to sit Brandon on the players’ bench during warm-ups before a future game.
...and things were going fine between him and the Flyers re: compensation until...
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The email exchange soured when Greenwell and Kleinman disagreed on what was said during a December phone call. Greenwell claimed Kleinman told him that Gritty admitted he hit Brandon. Kleinman denied saying that.
To me, the Flyers response I've seen was as PR-speak 'ok dude...' as you can get...
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“I have investigated your allegations and cannot identify anyone who witnessed the incident as you described it,” wrote Laurie Kleinman, vice president of risk management at Comcast Spectacor, in a Dec. 5 email to Greenwell. “It is unfortunate that you and your son had a bad experience at our Gritty Photo Event. Therefore, we are offering an opportunity to discuss a creative way to restore your son’s love of the Philadelphia Flyers.”
We can't find anything or anyone to verify that your son was the victim of a flying assault from an adult - but we're sorry you had a bad time
Let's a) end this e-mail chain and b) keep a fan happy
I'm not sure I would characterize the type of person that usually ends up in a mascot suit as a "full grown man".
Anyway, this incident has really cemented Gritty's street cred.
Uhhh....I think you might be surprised on that score....but then again, arguing mental state...it could go both ways.
As noted though, I think its preposterous to claim that a dude in a mascot suit somehow managed to ragdoll some kid with haymakers in an enormous crowd.
I dont think an MMA fighter could put much force through a mascot's fluffy, comedic clown-mitts.
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I dont have a dog or....well, whatever kind of horrific monster Gritty is, in this fight, but it doesnt seem particularly plausible that events played out as claimed.
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The fact that Gritty requires his own secret service agent is hilarious and sad.
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“I know it was not correct for my son to harmlessly tap him on his head but for a Flyers employee to get [sic] throw a full punch at someone with his back turned and hurt a 13 year old boy is assault, unprofessional and unacceptable for your organization,” he wrote.
Translation: the kid konked Gritty on the head. Gritty gave him the "you want a piece of me?" shove.
If the dad were a true Philadelphian, he would have gone Ace Ventura on that mascot.
Translation: the kid konked Gritty on the head. Gritty gave him the "you want a piece of me?" shove.
If the dad were a true Philadelphian, he would have gone Ace Ventura on that mascot.
Negative, I refer back to my Godzilla Gif. A true Philadelphian would let the event play out and let the best man win, loser pays for beers as they joke about it afterwards.
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Negative, I refer back to my GodzillaGif. A true Philadelphian would let the event play out and let the best man win, loser pays for beers as they joke about it afterwards.
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