03-07-2024, 05:18 PM
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#61
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Originally Posted by Jacks
This team is not a contender, if they can get Mercer straight up they should jump on it.
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Apparently the point it,they haven’t offered Mercer yet and this is a tactic to make that happen
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03-07-2024, 05:18 PM
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#62
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Ok, we get it. You can't stand anyone else's opinion. On a forum. On the internet.
Good grief.
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Pot meet kettle.
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03-07-2024, 05:19 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazam
This is 100% a negotiation tactic.
Jesus people it's the same thing as when the car salesman says "Yeah, I'm going to have to talk to my manager about that price."
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"You drive a hard bargain, Fitzy, but I've convinced ol' hardass Edwards to accept the deal. We'll even throw in the floor mats."
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03-07-2024, 05:20 PM
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#64
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burning Beard
Pot meet kettle.
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The “thanks” thumbs up is good, but sometimes this site needs a laughing option
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03-07-2024, 05:20 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
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If the Flames want Mercer and a first for Markstrom, there's no way the Leafs can even come close to that.
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03-07-2024, 05:21 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Ok, we get it. You can't stand anyone else's opinion. On a forum. On the internet.
Good grief.
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There sure is a lot of em like that today.
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03-07-2024, 05:22 PM
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#67
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2016
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I’d go Marky for Mercer straight up
I don’t think he wants to be here after this season anyways
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03-07-2024, 05:23 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Quote:
Originally Posted by All In Good Time
Apparently the point it,they haven’t offered Mercer yet and this is a tactic to make that happen
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There’s a 0.000001% chance the Devils move Mercer for Markstrom.
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03-07-2024, 05:24 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat
If the Flames want Mercer and a first for Markstrom, there's no way the Leafs can even come close to that.
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True, but if it becomes clear that Mercer is off the table no matter what and Conroy likes something Toronto has it gives him the option to pivot.
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03-07-2024, 05:24 PM
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#70
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Yeah to me this screams intentional leak to try and tip NJ's hand into caving. Similar to the previous report that NJ would be willing to "proceed without retention", but leaving out the part where their offer was significantly worse without retention. It makes it look like Calgary is the issue.
This is a return volley by Calgary to say the deal is right there for the taking if NJ will only meet the offer.
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03-07-2024, 05:25 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
There’s a 0.000001% chance the Devils move Mercer for Markstrom.
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That's a bold proclamation, not sure I would go that far. As a matter of fact I would say 50-50 is more like it.
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03-07-2024, 05:25 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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I can't see Fitz moving Mercer for Markstrom 50% retained, let alone Mercer+.
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03-07-2024, 05:25 PM
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#73
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Ok, we get it. You can't stand anyone else's opinion. On a forum. On the internet.
Good grief.
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Ya. Lol. That's exactly what I said.
Reread my man and figure your #### out. And if you can't, I certainly won't do it for you.
Wait, was Spurs your burner account? Busted.
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03-07-2024, 05:27 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Doesn't matter what ppl think. Flames want Mercer or it doesn't happen. Up to the Devils, balls in their court. Need a Vezina caliber goalie for two years? That's the cost of acquisition.
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03-07-2024, 05:27 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Edit: wrong thread
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oilboimcdavid
Eakins wasn't a bad coach, the team just had 2 bad years, they should've been more patient.
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03-07-2024, 05:27 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FurnaceFace
Listening to him, I felt Dreger was doing a fair amount of supposing and guessing vs knowing.
I can see the ownership/management rationale to publicly be optimistic. If you say “we think we can win”, you add more interest/excitement and may get a few more people out to the game. If you say “we’re packing it in” then who is going to buy a ticket? That makes sense to me. As a leader you need to convey optimism and hope to your employees and your constituents to get results. I don’t believe The Flames are in the same financial position or marketing position as The Rangers and can take out a full page in the newspaper and say “we’re going to suck now to be better soon” without it hurting.
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I don't believe this is true at all in Calgary. Everyone who even has mediocre knowledge of hockey knows the Flames need to rebuild and are a very long shot to make the playoffs this season. They don't need to sell false hope to educated hockey fans. Flames fans are on board for rebuilding.
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03-07-2024, 05:29 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
That's a bold proclamation, not sure I would go that far. As a matter of fact I would say 50-50 is more like it.
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Even with the Devils probably trading Toffoli? Interesting I would have thought that would have been the death knell
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oilboimcdavid
Eakins wasn't a bad coach, the team just had 2 bad years, they should've been more patient.
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03-07-2024, 05:32 PM
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#78
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Participant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
Less than 24h to confirm if this is true.
They won’t get more for Markstrom than right now, so no trade would coincide with their thoughts of “making it” this year.
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They might get more for Markstrom than right now if the offers for Markstrom aren’t good enough.
Why people state this stuff like fact, I don’t know. I don’t see any reason why offers couldn’t be the same or better in the summer.
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03-07-2024, 05:35 PM
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#79
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Markstrom and 2nd round pick for Mercer and 1st round pick.
Markstrom and Mangiapane for Mercer, Holtz, 1st round pick.
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03-07-2024, 05:36 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
That's a bold proclamation, not sure I would go that far. As a matter of fact I would say 50-50 is more like it.
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If the Devils give us Mercer for Markstrom I’ll buy the frog a celebratory meal.
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