Iginla Destination Discussion

[Jeromer2.0]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

Not sure who Jerome is.

Whoops!

[GioforPM]

I don't think Iginla's done - he can contribute. But I do think he's a third or fourth liner and PP specialist (and enforcer) on this team. I don't think he signs anywhere for less than $2M, so the question is whether you want to pay a fourth liner that much money. Plus I'm not sure he wants to come here anyway.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Disagree, completely.

How much Iggy did you watch last year?

There seems to be this ongoing group-think that the man can't skate anymore, and it's just false. Actually go back and watch him last year. I watched a fair bit leading up to the deadline, and a fair bit after he joined LA. He has game left in him.

It's almost like people love to build up false narratives just so that they can be aghast later in the year when a player actually performs quite well. It's the same as the other thread with what's his face claiming Jagr is "pretty much just a meme at this stage" or whatever.

Rubbish that is disconnected from reality.

This "rubbish" that you speak of are other posters' opinions that apparently differ from yours.

Your "reality" is also an opinion, not a fact. Fandom is a long way from scientific evidence. It is part of what makes hockey so interesting.

Contrasting views ,opinions and narratives are what make this board so interesting.

Bottom line, one person's treasure is another person's rubbish and vice versa.

[Jeromer2.0]

Nonetheless, once Edmonton signed Jussi Jokinen talks between Oilers and Iginla fizzled out. Iginla will be a Calgary Flame by week's end. I'm not sure I like the move as I believe we have better/younger options already signed.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Jeromer2.0

Nonetheless, once Edmonton signed Jussi Jokinen talks between Oilers and Iginla fizzled out. Iginla will be a Calgary Flame by week's end. I'm not sure I like the move as I believe we have better/younger options already signed.

Source?

At least confirm with mods.

[Jeromer2.0]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Source?

At least confirm with mods.

Will do!

[alan21]

Unless Jeromer2.0's name is Jerome, I don't see how someone that can't even spell his name have any actual inside source to where and when Iggy signs.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by alan21

Unless Jeromer2.0's name is Jerome, I don't see how someone that can't even spell his name have any actual inside source to where and when Iggy signs.

[Jeromer2.0]

Originally Posted by alan21

Unless Jeromer2.0's name is Jerome, I don't see how someone that can't even spell his name have any actual inside source to where and when Iggy signs.

My name is Jerome. Believe it or not, the name predates Iginla to a couple thousand years ago. It's spelt Jerome in Greek circles.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Jarome is slow... if his shifts are too long. Manage his shifts, and he can keep up with Monahan and Tkachuk just fine. He has always had the hockey smarts to go to the right place anyways. I don't worry about Iginla's footspeed - I hardly think it is a detriment.

It is his shift-lengths that could be a problem, but this is easily mitigated in my opinion. I think Iginla could actually help this team by adding to the overall depth scoring, grit/toughness and leadership. There are bound to be injuries, and I am ok with one of Iginla or Jagr being added to the roster. I think either of them can add to this team.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Jeromer2.0

Nonetheless, once Edmonton signed Jussi Jokinen talks between Oilers and Iginla fizzled out. Iginla will be a Calgary Flame by week's end. I'm not sure I like the move as I believe we have better/younger options already signed.

You remind me of Gaudreauvertime.

[CaptainYooh]

I was restraining myself from participating in this thread, because it's repeating itself every two-three pages; but I think this would be a useful comment.

Over a casual discussion on this topic this past week, three former NHL'ers told me that, given a choice between the two, Iginla would be a much better and smarter addition to Calgary Flames for the next season than Jagr for the following reasons:

1. He's still in excellent shape physically and very strong on the puck.
2. He's still got a good shot.
3. He's excellent with young players as a mentor and protector on ice. They revere him.
4. He's very fair and helpful in the locker room in all player-management-coaching related matters.
5. He's very likely to still score at least 10 goals next season just because of his experience and presence in the crease.

There was some unanswered confusion about his relationship with Giordano caused by Iggy challenging Gio to a fight here in Calgary; but nobody knew why that had happened and if that was anything other than the heat of a moment thing.

P.S. All three said that by all indicators Doan was done for good and shouldn't be playing in NHL anymore.

[Stay Golden]

Iggy still has value in the NHL but he has to be willing to play for 1-1.5m on a 1 year deal. If you look at his last 3 contracts he has gone to where the money is.

[Bane]

He's a nice guy, and a great athlete, but your memory is a tad skewed.

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

[*] He's excellent with young players as a mentor and protector on ice. They revere him.

The last thing we need is Iggy teaching our players how not to play the system, ignore defense, and rather cherry pick at center ice like he did in his last 5 years with the Flames. Iggy's "country club" clique mentality held back our progress for many years.

[*] He's very fair and helpful in the locker room in all player-management-

He undermined countless coaches by refusing to buy into the team system, preferring the aforementioned cherry picking, which lead to his early season slumps. It was only after a long drought that he would relent around mid to late November, finally start buying into the system, and then he his scoring would return.

No thanks! This is Gio's team, and they don't need the distraction.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Bane

He's a nice guy, and a great athlete, but your memory is a tad skewed.



The last thing we need is Iggy teaching our players how not to play the system, ignore defense, and rather cherry pick at center ice like he did in his last 5 years with the Flames. Iggy's "country club" clique mentality held back our progress for many years.



He undermined countless coaches by refusing to buy into the team system, preferring the aforementioned cherry picking, which lead to his early season slumps. It was only after a long drought that he would relent around mid to late November, finally start buying into the system, and then he his scoring would return.

No thanks! This is Gio's team, and they don't need the distraction.

Not this BS narrative again. The reason the team couldn't progress during those years was talent. The team was dreadful at drafting for years up on years and couldn't supplement the aging core with the type of young talent that it has now.

To blame the woes of the team on the guy who gave all the best years of his career and his best performances in this jersey is completely off the mark.

Also, if Gio is so fragile that bringing in an aging veteran is going to shake his captaincy the Flames have bigger problems (he's not that fragile, nor has Iginla ever been one to create controversy in a dressing room).

[REDVAN]

Originally Posted by Bane

He's a nice guy, and a great athlete, but your memory is a tad skewed.



The last thing we need is Iggy teaching our players how not to play the system, ignore defense, and rather cherry pick at center ice like he did in his last 5 years with the Flames. Iggy's "country club" clique mentality held back our progress for many years.



He undermined countless coaches by refusing to buy into the team system, preferring the aforementioned cherry picking, which lead to his early season slumps. It was only after a long drought that he would relent around mid to late November, finally start buying into the system, and then he his scoring would return.

No thanks! This is Gio's team, and they don't need the distraction.

Guess he won't have to teach Gaudreau very much then...

[TheFlamesVan]

Originally Posted by Jeromer2.0

Will do!

So mods...??? Can we start getting excited?

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

I was restraining myself from participating in this thread, because it's repeating itself every two-three pages; but I think this would be a useful comment.

Over a casual discussion on this topic this past week, three former NHL'ers told me that, given a choice between the two, Iginla would be a much better and smarter addition to Calgary Flames for the next season than Jagr for the following reasons:

1. He's still in excellent shape physically and very strong on the puck.
2. He's still got a good shot.
3. He's excellent with young players as a mentor and protector on ice. They revere him.
4. He's very fair and helpful in the locker room in all player-management-coaching related matters.
5. He's very likely to still score at least 10 goals next season just because of his experience and presence in the crease.

There was some unanswered confusion about his relationship with Giordano caused by Iggy challenging Gio to a fight here in Calgary; but nobody knew why that had happened and if that was anything other than the heat of a moment thing.

P.S. All three said that by all indicators Doan was done for good and shouldn't be playing in NHL anymore.

I think all 5 points are definitely believable for me. Some posters here might argue them, but I do believe that this is indeed what Iginla can contribute.

However, I don't get their rationale through these 5 points with regards to Jagr.

1) Jagr by all accounts is in incredible shape and is also very strong on the puck.

2) Still has a good shot (and playmaking ability)

3) He's excellent with young players and is a mentor - though definitely NOT a protector.

4) Those players would definitely have insight into this, and I would only be guessing where Jagr is concerned.

5) Jagr is a shoe-in to score 10 goals as well.

To me, they would both add in different ways. Iginla with perhaps more locker room leadership and coaching/management liaison skills, more toughness and more of a rallying-point for the other players to get behind in Calgary.

Jagr brings more playmaking and offensive production, and drives possession.

Neither are without warts, and thus need to be signed for cheaper deals because of it.

Just curious that some of the points they brought up made me think of Jagr as well (and I think Iginla will score more than 10 goals, and in the right situation, perhaps a bit more than 20 depending on PP opportunity and line mates).

What else did they say about the Flames? Curious to know how they feel about Calgary in light of all the off-season moves.

[Backlunds_socks]

Originally Posted by TheFlamesVan

So mods...??? Can we start getting excited?

I TOO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

Or is Jermoe2.0 pumping our tires.

[Ace]

It's about time someone has an Iginla back to Calgary rumour. It's been pretty disappointing to have our franchise best player an UFA, and not even a whiff of a rumour.