2019 Formula 1

[FLAMESRULE]

Originally Posted by 3thirty

Fuel loads? Fresh tires? those are my guesses at least

Yep, and add in engine modes, drivers pushing much harder, traffic. WAY more risk is taken in qualifying than racing. Gotta be in it, to win it.

Last year at Spain, Ricciardo had fastest race lap at 1:18.4 and Hamilton was a 1:16.2 in qualy.

[TheIronMaiden]

A slide show of upgrades that will be premiered on race day

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/s...g-f1-side-pods

[TheIronMaiden]

Looks like Haas is getting creative trying to solve their tyre heat problem.


https://ca.motorsport.com/f1/news/ha...usion/4384263/

although it understands what the problem is, team principal Gunther Steiner said the outfit does not yet have a solution in place to overcome the issue.

Haas is bringing a major update package to Barcelona, and Steiner has said that a decision has been made to keep Kevin Magnussen in the older configuration on Friday to ensure that the outfit does not get confused over the impact the new package has on its tyre woes.

Steiner said: "What we are doing tomorrow, we will run one car on the 'old' spec and one on the new spec, so we have something to compare.

"If with the new spec we've got issues at least we can compare it. If you put two cars on the new spec and you've got an issue, [you then ask yourself] is it the tyres or the new spec? So we've got one and one and then we can convert the second car on Friday night if everything goes to plan.

"We've got all the parts. We consciously wanted to have a back-to-back and not to confuse us more with the tyre issue."

The Haas update includes a new floor, front wing, bargeboard and mirrors

[FLAMESRULE]

Yeah and it really looked like it worked for them. P6 + P8 after FP2 with KMag ~-0.25 behind Grosjean and GJ was only 0.1s behind Max.

That is a crazy amount of things to change on a racecar, let alone an F1 car. Being able to get the tires warmed up evenly, aero downforce distributed evenly, etc all under FP/race conditions is a crazy amount of engineering and data analysis.

I dont think they were allowed to have even ran the car in the new trim, just CFD and wind tunnel testing.

[FLAMESRULE]

My picks, just to get everyone started!! Will probably change after FP3.

And heads up but I wont be able to get the tracker updated until mid next week due to work trip to Speedy Creek. GLTA.

Also...if you haven't yet, let me know about trophy $10 via PM.

Hamilton
Bottas
Leclerc
Vettel
Verstappen
KMag
Grosjean
Gasly
Sainz
Raikkonen

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by RatherDashing

Do you guys know why the qualifying laps are much faster than the race? At Australia the fastest lap was 1.25.580 by Bottas, but in qualifying he did 1.20.598.

Others have answered but I’ll elaborate a little.

They’re running on min fuel. They have just enough to complete the out lap, timed lap and in lap.

They always use a fresh set of the fastest tire (softest) available for the weekend. Except sometimes in Q2 but that’s a whole other discussion of strategy.

Not only that but they push those tires to the limit with no concern for wear (again, except for Q2 sometimes due to the fact the top 10 have to start the race on their Q2 tires).

They run in max engine mode. You may hear people refer to Mercedes ability to turn up their engine higher than anyone else on the grid. The term “party mode” is used frequently, not sure where that originated. Basically, for the race the engines are set to maximize speed but also efficiency (fuel) and the life of the engine. In qually they’ll turn it up to a level that would probably wear down and possibly even break the engine if used for full race distance. Merc have such great reliability they can turn their engine up higher than other teams (usually) and run it at a level that other teams can’t risk.

The way the battery works they can only harvest and the use so much energy per lap. During the race they want to keep this fairly balanced. But during qually they can fully charge and then fully use all stored energy since they only care about getting in one great lap.

Setups also matter. Like the aero (front and rear wings), tire camber and toe etc. You can set up the car to be great over a quick lap but such that it’ll ruin the tires or won’t be as stable for a full race distance. And since you aren’t allowed to change most settings after the car has started Q1, it is important for teams to find a setup that works for both quick laps and for a full race. No point in qualifying 1st if you’ll be much slower in the race or if the car is undrivable with a full fuel load. If you have a very stable chassis/aero to begin with then you can probably optimize your qually speed without sacrificing too much race pace.

[Fuzz]

Hamilton appears to be able to find that extra gear, much as Senna could, over the rest of the field, even admitting himself it was “one of my best” pole laps.That ‘extra gear’ was labelled the ‘party mode’ on the Mercedes power unit, seemingly coined by Hamilton himself during a Petronas sponsor event in Italy last week. Suped-up engine modes are nothing new in F1 pushing for peak performance, yet Hamilton said he was looking forward to seeing what the power unit could do when turned up to 11.
Hamilton was coy about the “party mode” concept after the session, though, stressing: “I can assure you we don’t have a party mode. I use the same mode from Q2 to end of Q3. There was no extra button, there was no extra mode that I engaged in.”
Yet Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff appeared to contradict his driver when speaking after the session, saying there was a shift in mode between the sessions. “There is a party mode in the car, but we switched the party mode on in Q3,” Wolff said. “There was no difference from the first run in Q3 to the second run in Q3, he just said that he had a great lap, pulled it all together and carried more speed through the apexes.”

https://www.crash.net/f1/feature/892...ode-spoils-fun

[Fuzz]

Hamilton
Bottas
Vettel
Verstappen
Leclerc
KMag
Gasly
Sainz
Raikkonen
Norris

[TheIronMaiden]

1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Leclerc
4. Verstappen
5. Vettel
6. Norris
7. Perez
8. Gasly
9. Sainz
10. Raikkonen

[btimbit]

1: Hamilton
2: Bottas
3: Vettel
4: Verstappen
5: Leclerc
6: Gasly
7: Norris
8: Magnussen
9: Sainz
10: Raikkonen

I'll throw Haas a bone and give them some points here. Don't screw me Gunther

[3thirty]

Hamilton
Bottas
Vettel
Verstappen
Leclerc
Gasly
Perez
Sainz
Stroll
Raikonnen

[J epworth]

Hamilton
Bottas
Leclerc
Vettel
Verstappen
Sainz
Gasly
Raikonnen
Perez
Magnussen

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Courtesy of reddit.

Clip from FP1 of a brief interview with the Ferrari/Shell lubricants guy. I love these kinds of bits.

https://streamable.com/mde1j

[RatherDashing]

1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Vettel
4. Verstappen
5. Leclerc
6. Magnussen
7. Gasly
8. Sainz
9. Perez
10. Raikonnen

[Cecil Terwilliger]

1 Bot
2 Ham
3 Vet
4 Lec
5 Ver
6 Sai
7 Gas
8 Mag
9 Rai
10 Alb

[jayswin]

1. Hamilton
2. Bottas
3. Leclerc
4. Verstappen
5. Vettel
6. Gasly
7. Magnusson
8. Sainz
9. Grosjean
10. Kvyat

[GreatWhiteEbola]

Hamilton
Bottas
Vettel
Verstappen
Leclerc
Gasly
Perez
Sainz
Stroll
Raikonnen

[DoubleK]

Bot
Ham
Lec
Vet
Ves
Gro
Sai
Rai
Alb
Nor

[speede5]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Others have answered but I’ll elaborate a little.

They’re running on min fuel. They have just enough to complete the out lap, timed lap and in lap.

They always use a fresh set of the fastest tire (softest) available for the weekend. Except sometimes in Q2 but that’s a whole other discussion of strategy.

Not only that but they push those tires to the limit with no concern for wear (again, except for Q2 sometimes due to the fact the top 10 have to start the race on their Q2 tires).

They run in max engine mode. You may hear people refer to Mercedes ability to turn up their engine higher than anyone else on the grid. The term “party mode” is used frequently, not sure where that originated. Basically, for the race the engines are set to maximize speed but also efficiency (fuel) and the life of the engine. In qually they’ll turn it up to a level that would probably wear down and possibly even break the engine if used for full race distance. Merc have such great reliability they can turn their engine up higher than other teams (usually) and run it at a level that other teams can’t risk.

The way the battery works they can only harvest and the use so much energy per lap. During the race they want to keep this fairly balanced. But during qually they can fully charge and then fully use all stored energy since they only care about getting in one great lap.

Setups also matter. Like the aero (front and rear wings), tire camber and toe etc. You can set up the car to be great over a quick lap but such that it’ll ruin the tires or won’t be as stable for a full race distance. And since you aren’t allowed to change most settings after the car has started Q1, it is important for teams to find a setup that works for both quick laps and for a full race. No point in qualifying 1st if you’ll be much slower in the race or if the car is undrivable with a full fuel load. If you have a very stable chassis/aero to begin with then you can probably optimize your qually speed without sacrificing too much race pace.

Great summary. DRS is also available in all zones during qualifying I believe. Every little but adds up.

[btimbit]

Happy with this showing from Haas so far.