Building The 2018/19 Flames Roster

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by goflamesgo18

2018-2019 Calgary Flames (Just a very educated guess)


Gaudreau - Tavares - Bennett
Tkachuk - Monahan - Ferland
Frolik - Backlund - B. Tkachuk
Shore - Jankowski - Hathaway

Giordano - Hamilton
Andersson - Hamonic
Kylington - Stone

Smith
Gilles

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by goflamesgo18

2018-2019 Calgary Flames (Just a very educated guess)


Gaudreau - Tavares - Bennett
Tkachuk - Monahan - Ferland
Frolik - Backlund - B. Tkachuk
Shore - Jankowski - Hathaway

Giordano - Hamilton
Andersson - Hamonic
Kylington - Stone

Smith
Gilles

So is it Brodie to the Habs, Sens, or Yotes for the 3rd, 4th, or 5th pick?

[Jaydee]

Zibanejad + 9th (if Brady falls) for Hamilton would be my dream

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by goflamesgo18

2018-2019 Calgary Flames (Just a very educated guess)

Care to elaborate?

[activeStick]

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Bennett
Frolik - Jankowski - Versteeg
Lazar - Shore - Brouwer

The bottom six is certainly a concern and the lineup above assumes the Flames re-sign Versteeg either because it's the best value option or they simply aren't interested in some of the other players available. Versteeg has also had some success with this team on the PP and appears to be liked by his teammates.

You bump Bennett up because it'll be his last year of his contract and you don't want any questions around whether you put him in the best position to succeed given he is the team's highest draft pick. If he continues to disappoint playing with Tkachuk and Backlund, you say goodbye at the end of the year.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Bennett
Frolik - Jankowski - Versteeg
Lazar - Shore - Brouwer

The bottom six is certainly a concern and the lineup above assumes the Flames re-sign Versteeg either because it's the best value option or they simply aren't interested in some of the other players available. Versteeg has also had some success with this team on the PP and appears to be liked by his teammates.

You bump Bennett up because it'll be his last year of his contract and you don't want any questions around whether you put him in the best position to succeed given he is the team's highest draft pick. If he continues to disappoint playing with Tkachuk and Backlund, you say goodbye at the end of the year.

This would leave the Flames with 12 million in cap space.
The question isn't "if" they sign a major UFA. It's "who".

[FlamesFanTrev]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Tkachuk - Backlund - Bennett
Frolik - Jankowski - Versteeg
Lazar - Shore - Brouwer

The bottom six is certainly a concern and the lineup above assumes the Flames re-sign Versteeg either because it's the best value option or they simply aren't interested in some of the other players available. Versteeg has also had some success with this team on the PP and appears to be liked by his teammates.

You bump Bennett up because it'll be his last year of his contract and you don't want any questions around whether you put him in the best position to succeed given he is the team's highest draft pick. If he continues to disappoint playing with Tkachuk and Backlund, you say goodbye at the end of the year.

This seems a little harsh. More like you accept reality that you drafted a bottom 6 forward at #4. Regardless of how this season goes, you re-sign Bennett at reasonable value or trade him for what his value actually is. But under no circumstances is this a club that can just let young players walk away because you thought their potential was higher.

[goflamesgo18]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

Care to elaborate?

haha should have been green text. Didn't think anyone would take my "educated guess" seriously.

This is just my dream.

[genetic_phreek]

Gaudreau - Monahan - Bennett
Tkachuk - Jankowski - Foo/Mangiapane
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik
Brouwer/Dube - Shore - Lazar


Giordano - Hamilton
Anderson - Brodie
Kulak/Kylington - Hamonic

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

Gaudreau - Monahan - Bennett
Tkachuk - Jankowski - Foo/Mangiapane
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik
Brouwer/Dube - Shore - Lazar


Giordano - Hamilton
Anderson - Brodie
Kulak/Kylington - Hamonic

So the Flames bring in zero new players to the organization over the summer?

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

So the Flames bring in zero new players to the organization over the summer?

No new and shiny toy. Just more homegrown guys get more time such as Dube, Mangiapane, Foo, Andersson, and Kylington.

New coaching staff and a tweak to the current roster should allow us to be better. It's not like we are Oilers/Canucks/Sabres/Coyotes bad that we need a huge adjustment.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

No new and shiny toy. Just more homegrown guys get more time such as Dube, Mangiapane, Foo, Andersson, and Kylington.

New coaching staff and a tweak to the current roster should allow us to be better. It's not like we are Oilers/Canucks/Sabres/Coyotes bad that we need a huge adjustment.

Fair enough. I am not convinced replacing Gulutzan with “mean Gully” is going to change that much myself.

I feel the lack of depth in the organization was painfully clear last season. A year of maturing should help that and I am hopeful guys like Foo, Mangiapane, Dube, and Kylington are ready. The only prospect I feel extremely comfortable plugging in the lineup next year is Andersson. I also feel that this past season was such a failure that would be potential career suicide for Treliving to double down on his roster and put all the blame on the coach (which he already stated was not the entire problem last year.)

It would be nice to see some of those prospects force managements hand and they do make the team.

[Lanny_McDonald]

I don't think there is a shortage of talent in the system. What I think there is a shortage of is balls in giving young players a big opportunity. We may already have the players we need, maybe they are just playing with the wrong guys? Maybe Tkachuk should be playing with Jankowski and Bennett, providing the secondary scoring and allowing Backlund/Frolik to do what they are supposedly so good at, shutting down the opposition? Maybe Bennett is that third line center we need, freeing up Jankowski to play up the lineup, maybe on the wing with Gaudreau and Monahan? There's potential with Foo, Mangiapane, Dube, Klimchuk that needs to be explored. I think the talent is there, now we just need someone who has the guts to play the talent, and stick with it. If there was one add I would like to make, it is a true sniper on the right side (either side would be fine). I'm not sure we have one of those in the system.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by New Era

I don't think there is a shortage of talent in the system. What I think there is a shortage of is balls in giving young players a big opportunity. We may already have the players we need, maybe they are just playing with the wrong guys? Maybe Tkachuk should be playing with Jankowski and Bennett, providing the secondary scoring and allowing Backlund/Frolik to do what they are supposedly so good at, shutting down the opposition? Maybe Bennett is that third line center we need, freeing up Jankowski to play up the lineup, maybe on the wing with Gaudreau and Monahan? There's potential with Foo, Mangiapane, Dube, Klimchuk that needs to be explored. I think the talent is there, now we just need someone who has the guts to play the talent, and stick with it. If there was one add I would like to make, it is a true sniper on the right side (either side would be fine). I'm not sure we have one of those in the system.

I could see Matthew Phillips developing into a Cam Atkinson type.

[bubbsy]

Here's my guess....

Brodie + klimchuk/Poirier for galchenyuk
Surprise signing of a dman (jack johnson?)
Surprise signing/trading of a goalie who immediately steps into a 1b role
Brouwer bought out

Gaudreau - Monahan - Galchenyuk
Tkachuk - Backlund - Bennett
Ferland - Jankowski - Frolik
Lazar - Shore - Foo

Giordano - Hamilton
Anderson - Hamonic
Johnson - Stone
Kulak

Smith
1b

Not making the playoffs is going to be mandated as completely unacceptable, flames will de-risk that heavily by trying to fill obvious holes.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by New Era

I don't think there is a shortage of talent in the system. What I think there is a shortage of is balls in giving young players a big opportunity. We may already have the players we need, maybe they are just playing with the wrong guys? Maybe Tkachuk should be playing with Jankowski and Bennett, providing the secondary scoring and allowing Backlund/Frolik to do what they are supposedly so good at, shutting down the opposition? Maybe Bennett is that third line center we need, freeing up Jankowski to play up the lineup, maybe on the wing with Gaudreau and Monahan? There's potential with Foo, Mangiapane, Dube, Klimchuk that needs to be explored. I think the talent is there, now we just need someone who has the guts to play the talent, and stick with it. If there was one add I would like to make, it is a true sniper on the right side (either side would be fine). I'm not sure we have one of those in the system.

I hope you're right. It would sure make things a lot easier for this franchise going forward.

[Jimdon]

I feel like the biggest failure of this year was watching our roster sink and still having no clue what you have in the pipes.

Could Andersson make the team better right now? And in what role? Could the couple games we got out of Foo have translated into better results if given the chance? Is there any good reason why the top defenseman goal scorer wasn't on the first pp unit for most of the season? What is kylington? Is he an nhl capable prospect or a waste of time?

[Roof-Daddy]

Gaudreau - Monahan - (A)______
Tkachuk - (B)______ - (C)______
M Ferland - Backlund - Frolik


Ideally this is how I'd like to see the top 9 constructed. A, B, C can be acquired by trade, UFA signing or filled from within. At this point I'm not very confident that any of those spots can be adequately filled from within though, but you never know as young players can surprise.

A - Bennett, Foo, Mangiapane, Dube. Real long shots would be Phillips or Gawdin. You could always put Ferland there again as he performed just fine, but I'd love to see a young right hand shot in that spot. Someone like Josh Anderson would be perfect.

B - Jankowski, Bennett or a UFA signing or trade. I don't know if Janko has the chops for that role yet, but maybe he could manage if you flank him with another solid winger to go along with Tkachuk. Like a James Neal or David Perron for instance. Ideally Janko takes that spot and runs away with it next year, but that's a huge gamble. Or an even longer shot is Bennett if Peters decides to give him another go at center. Like I said, to have a young guy step up and perform there would be huge, but for the UFA route it's Tavares or bust, which we all know is also very unlikely. As for trades, ROR and Jordan Staal have been rumored to be potentially available, I would also be good with centers like Lindholm, Zibanejad and Duchene at a fair price.

C - If a young C like Janko is used as the 2C, then as mentioned earlier, I'd like to see a guy like Neal or Perron brought in for the 2nd line right wing spot. A proven top 6 NHL winger. If you end up with a homerun like Tavares, then I'm pretty sure someone like Foo or Mangiapane could fill that spot just fine without hurting you. I'd even say the same if a lesser C than Tavares was brought in, as mentioned above.

Fill out the 4th line with the leftover pieces after they battle it out in camp.

Some examples:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Josh Anderson
Tkachuk - Jankowski - James Neal
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

Gaudreau - Monahan - Connor Brown
Tkachuk - Tavares - Spencer Foo
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

Gaudreau - Monahan - David Perron
Tkachuk - Zibanejad - Sam Bennett
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

Gaudreau - Monahan - Jakub Silfverberg
Tkachuk - R. O'Reilly - Andrew Mangiapane
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Gaudreau - Monahan - (A)______
Tkachuk - (B)______ - (C)______
M Ferland - Backlund - Frolik


Ideally this is how I'd like to see the top 9 constructed. A, B, C can be acquired by trade, UFA signing or filled from within. At this point I'm not very confident that any of those spots can be adequately filled from within though, but you never know as young players can surprise.

A - Bennett, Foo, Mangiapane, Dube. Real long shots would be Phillips or Gawdin. You could always put Ferland there again as he performed just fine, but I'd love to see a young right hand shot in that spot. Someone like Josh Anderson would be perfect.

B - Jankowski, Bennett or a UFA signing or trade. I don't know if Janko has the chops for that role yet, but maybe he could manage if you flank him with another solid winger to go along with Tkachuk. Like a James Neal or David Perron for instance. Ideally Janko takes that spot and runs away with it next year, but that's a huge gamble. Or an even longer shot is Bennett if Peters decides to give him another go at center. Like I said, to have a young guy step up and perform there would be huge, but for the UFA route it's Tavares or bust, which we all know is also very unlikely. As for trades, ROR and Jordan Staal have been rumored to be potentially available, I would also be good with centers like Lindholm, Zibanejad and Duchene at a fair price.

C - If a young C like Janko is used as the 2C, then as mentioned earlier, I'd like to see a guy like Neal or Perron brought in for the 2nd line right wing spot. A proven top 6 NHL winger. If you end up with a homerun like Tavares, then I'm pretty sure someone like Foo or Mangiapane could fill that spot just fine without hurting you. I'd even say the same if a lesser C than Tavares was brought in, as mentioned above.

Fill out the 4th line with the leftover pieces after they battle it out in camp.

Some examples:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Josh Anderson
Tkachuk - Jankowski - James Neal
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

Gaudreau - Monahan - Connor Brown
Tkachuk - Tavares - Spencer Foo
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

Gaudreau - Monahan - David Perron
Tkachuk - Zibanejad - Sam Bennett
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

Gaudreau - Monahan - Jakub Silfverberg
Tkachuk - R. O'Reilly - Andrew Mangiapane
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

Not trying to pick on you, but those lineups are like Buzz's girlfriend; WOOF! They aren't woof because I think you're bad at putting lineups together, they are woof because it's tough to turn chicken #### into chicken salad. Valiant effort, but still a black and white mess.

Really illustrates how many forward positions are needing to be filled by quality NHLers.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Gaudreau - Monahan - (A)______
Tkachuk - (B)______ - (C)______
M Ferland - Backlund - Frolik


Ideally this is how I'd like to see the top 9 constructed. A, B, C can be acquired by trade, UFA signing or filled from within. At this point I'm not very confident that any of those spots can be adequately filled from within though, but you never know as young players can surprise.

A - Bennett, Foo, Mangiapane, Dube. Real long shots would be Phillips or Gawdin. You could always put Ferland there again as he performed just fine, but I'd love to see a young right hand shot in that spot. Someone like Josh Anderson would be perfect.

B - Jankowski, Bennett or a UFA signing or trade. I don't know if Janko has the chops for that role yet, but maybe he could manage if you flank him with another solid winger to go along with Tkachuk. Like a James Neal or David Perron for instance. Ideally Janko takes that spot and runs away with it next year, but that's a huge gamble. Or an even longer shot is Bennett if Peters decides to give him another go at center. Like I said, to have a young guy step up and perform there would be huge, but for the UFA route it's Tavares or bust, which we all know is also very unlikely. As for trades, ROR and Jordan Staal have been rumored to be potentially available, I would also be good with centers like Lindholm, Zibanejad and Duchene at a fair price.

C - If a young C like Janko is used as the 2C, then as mentioned earlier, I'd like to see a guy like Neal or Perron brought in for the 2nd line right wing spot. A proven top 6 NHL winger. If you end up with a homerun like Tavares, then I'm pretty sure someone like Foo or Mangiapane could fill that spot just fine without hurting you. I'd even say the same if a lesser C than Tavares was brought in, as mentioned above.

Fill out the 4th line with the leftover pieces after they battle it out in camp.

Some examples:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Josh Anderson
Tkachuk - Jankowski - James Neal
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

Gaudreau - Monahan - Connor Brown
Tkachuk - Tavares - Spencer Foo
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

Gaudreau - Monahan - David Perron
Tkachuk - Zibanejad - Sam Bennett
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

Gaudreau - Monahan - Jakub Silfverberg
Tkachuk - R. O'Reilly - Andrew Mangiapane
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik

I would prefer Bennett penciled in where you have Ferland. Personally I think the Flames should try and sell high on Ferland and keep Bennett