01-27-2022, 10:39 PM
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#221
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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LOL - some dude on twitter insists this is good because now the Oilers can trade someone made redundant in the top six by Kane. Except he didn’t know that Hyman and RNH has NMCs so he was left trying to convince me someone would want Yamamoto at the TDL.
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01-27-2022, 10:47 PM
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#222
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by OldDutch
He made the same pitch to both teams
“You know you want me”
Washington said pass, and Katz and Lowe got a chub.
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Basically, the same thing Yakupov did in the pre-draft interviews. Let's hope it works out as well.
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01-27-2022, 10:57 PM
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#223
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
"More goals than the other guys", not just "more goals".
They haven't gained any advantage by adding another one dimensional player who's usually a (-) player.
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Plus you have to consider the ice time factor. Kane ends up the first pp Hyman slides off and puljujarvi probably gets lost in the shuffle. Kane is better but it’s not a straight add and it hurts puljujarvi development. A young player starting to produce. If puljujarvi stays on the pp Kane is used to being a first line first pp guy who probably will be a cancer to the team if it doesn’t work out for him personally
Adding forwards to this team makes less sense when they quite often in close games play 2 players close to half the game. Adding to the blue line or in net adds way more to this team. This move has to block any chance of a deadline add too
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01-27-2022, 11:06 PM
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#224
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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His teammates in Winnipeg didnt want anything to do with him.
His teammates in Buffalo didnt want anything to do with him.
His teammates in San Jose essentially voted him off the team.
This time will be different right? "Lets go!"
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01-27-2022, 11:10 PM
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#225
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I’ve already seen some Oilers fans defending Kane, and arguing that he’s been unfairly prosecuted and that it’s just because everyone else is racist. I can’t wait for him to further implode Edmonton. I’m going to guess that before his tenure is over he’ll get accused of assault again, and end up shutting the Oilers down due to Covid
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01-27-2022, 11:23 PM
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#227
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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NHL even allowing this to happen is ridiculous.
How do you allow one team to void a players contract with no cap penalty.
Then find that the investigation found no issue and don’t suspend the player.
And then let another team sign him .
I don’t get his his contract was just voided to start with, yet he faces no type of suspension
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01-27-2022, 11:28 PM
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#228
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Location: Seattle, WA
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
NHL even allowing this to happen is ridiculous.
How do you allow one team to void a players contract with no cap penalty.
Then find that the investigation found no issue and don’t suspend the player.
And then let another team sign him .
I don’t get his his contract was just voided to start with, yet he faces no type of suspension
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Pretty sure this means that Kane will win his grievance and the Sharks will be paying a recapture penalty for several years.
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01-27-2022, 11:39 PM
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#229
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by DoubleK
Pretty sure this means that Kane will win his grievance and the Sharks will be paying a recapture penalty for several years.
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Oh I sincerely doubt it.
I think what it means is that the NHL is deeming his COVID transgressions as 'good enough' to warrant contract termination, they wont pursue additional punishment allowing him to sign with another team and in exchange the PA's half-hearted Grievance will gradually fade into a distant memory.
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01-27-2022, 11:48 PM
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#230
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Lifetime Suspension
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What else needs to be said? Grab your popcorn and 3D glasses and sit back.
Doing anything but laughing (or cringing) and shaking your head at Oiler fans out here sympathizing with Kane is just a waste. All the proof you need is in how the his last three teams very obviously felt about him being there. If it was just gambling addiction issues and a misunderstood guy down on his luck, why did like all but two or three of his teammates in SJ want him shipped out asap? Why does an all around solid vet like Buf go out of his way to disrespect EK in front of the team? You know why.
I think everybody and their dog knows more or less how this one ends.
It's just this year's iteration of the circus show.
Last edited by djsFlames; 01-27-2022 at 11:51 PM.
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01-28-2022, 12:01 AM
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#231
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
I don't see this as a bad move by the Oilers. Yeah, they needed a goaltender or a defenseman more, but their MO is to try and outscore their opponent. Kane will help in that regard. This adds another dangerous weapon to their top six and gives them two very dangerous lines. That is something the Flames can't say. The Flames have the advantage everywhere else, but the game is won by scoring more goals than the other guy. The Oilers get a leg up by this move. Will it be enough to make up for other shortcomings? We're going to find out.
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I think I've been told this by people in Edmonton so many times over the years that I've lost count.
If you actually are baited into the "this time will be different" narrative after the long, long history that has demonstrated exactly why it won't be, then you're part of the joke now too.
50th ranked goaltender, negative goal differential, poor even strength metrics, AHL defense
But yes, Evander Kane fresh out of sitting on his ass for half a year will step in and fix the Edmonton Oilers.
Yeah, I can't even type that with a straight face.
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01-28-2022, 12:28 AM
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#232
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Location: Springbank
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^^ This. Every time they make a move their fans (and some doom and bloomers here) figure it’s that one missing ingredient. It was the same with Hyman, same with Neal, same when Puljujarvi returned, etc. as long as their go to move is putting their top two centres one one line, their goals will not go up. They only score so many.
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01-28-2022, 08:57 AM
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#233
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
NHL even allowing this to happen is ridiculous.
How do you allow one team to void a players contract with no cap penalty.
Then find that the investigation found no issue and don’t suspend the player.
And then let another team sign him .
I don’t get his his contract was just voided to start with, yet he faces no type of suspension
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The only pretzel logic I can think of is that the NHL will claim:
- Kane's actions in the AHL are out of their jurisdiction (did the AHL suspend him? or was he already released before they could?)
- Kane's actions in the AHL are still relevant to his relationship with the Sharks
Or the other answer might be that this outcome is essentially the 'settlement' - ie. the grievance goes no where in exchange for no punishment/the investigation time delaying his signing was punishment enough.
Or maybe they let Kane spin the wheel of supplementary discipline and he got lucky.
Not saying I agree with any of the above, just ideas.
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01-28-2022, 09:19 AM
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#234
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Franchise Player
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Remember when Coiler fans tried to convince us the devil had come because Chucky wouldn't fight Mr. Kicking-coke-head Kassian? Oh the dishonour, they cried!
I sure do.
How does that fanbase look at themselves in the mirror on the morning.
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01-28-2022, 09:40 AM
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#235
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01-28-2022, 09:40 AM
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#236
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
NHL even allowing this to happen is ridiculous.
How do you allow one team to void a players contract with no cap penalty.
Then find that the investigation found no issue and don’t suspend the player.
And then let another team sign him .
I don’t get his his contract was just voided to start with, yet he faces no type of suspension
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That's the thing that pisses me off. The NHL letting the Sharks off the hook is dumb. They should at least have to keep the cap hit. I suspect that Kane gets some money out of them as well.
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01-28-2022, 09:48 AM
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#237
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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Wow....you don't see media tee off on the oilers like this.
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The Oilers are woefully constructed
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The Blackhawks sold their organizational soul for a shot at winning a Stanley Cup. It’s a stain that will never leave that team and some of the most recognized figures in the game.
By signing Kane to a pro-rated one-year deal, the Oilers have likewise sold their organizational soul, too
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here’s hoping we never hear GM Ken Holland utter the words ‘character’ and ‘culture’ again while he’s GM of the club
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01-28-2022, 09:49 AM
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#238
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I'm sure the casino attached to the arena had nothing to do with Kane's decision. Heck, he can double his signing bonus in the first intermission of his first home game! What other team offered that kind of opportunity?
Besides Vegas, but I suspect Kane wanted to keep his knees intact...
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01-28-2022, 09:51 AM
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#239
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by browna
No tweets from Matheson or Jones. Staples just links to an article. Clearly this one even the local media water carriers don't want to pump the organization's tires for this one like they would for basically anyone else who would be hailed as "saving" the season.
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Local media are in a wait and see. If Kane scores some goals, brings some edge, and the Oilers win their next 1-3 games there will be all kinds of articles about how Holland is a genius and this was an amazing move.
If it fails they will perhaps take a swipe but more than likely do nothing.
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