12-08-2021, 09:40 PM
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Damian Warner wins the Lou Marsh award
Didn't see this posted elsewhere- and I figure better here than in the Olympics forum
very deserved- but what a stacked field ! You are always going to have the hockey guys but to take Warner, add Degrasse, Davies, Vladdy Jr, Maggie MacNeil etc..some kind of year for Canadian athletes
Labbe was the other finalist- suspect she and her teammates will get their recognition too soon enough
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/l...ment-1.6277879
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12-08-2021, 10:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by looooob
Didn't see this posted elsewhere- and I figure better here than in the Olympics forum
very deserved- but what a stacked field ! You are always going to have the hockey guys but to take Warner, add Degrasse, Davies, Vladdy Jr, Maggie MacNeil etc..some kind of year for Canadian athletes
Labbe was the other finalist- suspect she and her teammates will get their recognition too soon enough
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/l...ment-1.6277879
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As he should.
Technically, he’s the worlds most complete athlete after competing in 10 events at an elite level. It truly is a remarkable event to win in the Olympics and takes full commitment to your craft to be at that level, in that many events, in a 48h period.
As well as a class act, humble, well spoken and drama free. Many athletes and politicians and public figures in this country could take note.
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12-09-2021, 12:31 AM
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Lol ‘Aside from cleaning house for regular season individual accolades McDavid lead his team to a nail biting 4-0 sweep defeat at the hands of the jets in the first round of the playoffs narrowly missing out beating Warner for this honour’ or something along those lines is what I expect to see sportsnets article say.
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12-09-2021, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Lol ‘Aside from cleaning house for regular season individual accolades McDavid lead his team to a nail biting 4-0 sweep defeat at the hands of the jets in the first round of the playoffs narrowly missing out beating Warner for this honour’ or something along those lines is what I expect to see sportsnets article say.
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Even in a non-Olympic year I'm not sure McDavid wins. It would be Davies but if you don't want to give it to Davies again, it would surely be Vladdy Jr. for his great season.
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12-09-2021, 08:45 AM
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Damian Warner was a beast at the Olympics.
The vote should have been him then miles of daylight.
As as aside, should we look at re-naming the award? I watched a piece on the news last night highlighting some of Lou Marsh's views. Even in the light of times they were sketchy as ####.
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12-09-2021, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Damian Warner was a beast at the Olympics.
The vote should have been him then miles of daylight.
As as aside, should we look at re-naming the award? I watched a piece on the news last night highlighting some of Lou Marsh's views. Even in the light of times they were sketchy as ####.
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That's a tough one, revisionist history will always be murky. Humans are humans, not saints
For example, are writers today who support athletes going to the Beijing Games (both in 2008 and 2022) going to cancelled 50 or 80 years from now after Xi Jinping caused WWIII and persecuted non-ethnic Chinese?
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12-09-2021, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
That's a tough one, revisionist history will always be murky. Humans are humans, not saints
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He sure as #### wasn't a Saint.
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/opinion-lo...ophy-1.6273039
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But it's tougher to categorize Marsh's antisemitism as a simple product of his era. In the leadup to the 1936 Olympics, he criticized Canadian athletes who, uneasy about helping Nazi Germany launder its public image, pondered a boycott of the Berlin Games. He also downplayed the Nazi regime's inhumane treatment of Jewish citizens, dismissing it, as "an internal German matter."
Even back then, folks knew who the villains were in this scenario. European and North American powers were already choosing up sides in the leadup to what would become World War II. Of all the groups who could have used an ally in the North American press, the Nazis weren't one. Most people understood it then, like they understand it now.
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I don't think we are re-visioning anything. His views were poor for the time in which he lived.
I don't think there is anything wrong with acknowledging that and changing the name.
Canada has a #### tonne of great sports people to choose from if you want to go with a "named" trophy.
Hell change it to Canadian Athlete of the Year.
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12-09-2021, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
Even in a non-Olympic year I'm not sure McDavid wins. It would be Davies but if you don't want to give it to Davies again, it would surely be Vladdy Jr. for his great season.
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I agree- McDavid will likely win this award more than once before his career is over- but hard to see it in a weird truncated season that ended in playoff failure
I think Vladdy Jr would have been the vote if we forget the Olympics- essentially an MVP season in MLB (just more unique for a Canadian than essentially the same version from a hockey player- both with their team missing or sputtering in the playoffs)...Davies won last year, and we have the big tournament that cannot be named coming up next year
edit- having said that above, I note that in the timespan that Votto has won twice, only one NHLer (Price) has won it
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