06-28-2018, 11:49 PM
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#81
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Man, quite a few apologists in here. The last straw that broke the camel's back for me was this sequence of events.
"Sean Monahan doesn't hate to lose enough"
cut to garbage bag day and we find out that Monahan was playing through serious injuries and ended up having 4 surgeries at the end of the year. Basically playing with one hand for half the season.
I'm sorry, I don't give reporters a pass for getting it that wrong and defaming the character of players who leave it all out there. That's just the latest example of an entire career of this sort of stuff. I will not miss Francis in the slightest.
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Yup completely unprofessional and embarrassing.
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06-29-2018, 06:30 AM
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#82
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Man, quite a few apologists in here. The last straw that broke the camel's back for me was this sequence of events.
"Sean Monahan doesn't hate to lose enough"
cut to garbage bag day and we find out that Monahan was playing through serious injuries and ended up having 4 surgeries at the end of the year. Basically playing with one hand for half the season.
I'm sorry, I don't give reporters a pass for getting it that wrong and defaming the character of players who leave it all out there. That's just the latest example of an entire career of this sort of stuff. I will not miss Francis in the slightest.
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Yeah that article is not flattering for him and a pretty bad way to end his career but he was catering to an angry fanbase as a lot of posters here ate that up and ran with it.
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06-29-2018, 06:51 AM
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#83
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Franchise Player
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Or he could genuinely believe that Monahan doesn't play hard enough without the puck and doesn't play with much emotion, irrespective of his recent injuries.
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06-29-2018, 07:05 AM
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#84
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Or he could genuinely believe that Monahan doesn't play hard enough without the puck and doesn't play with much emotion, irrespective of his recent injuries.
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Francis' body of work doesn't lend one to believe his shock value opinions were ever genuine.
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06-29-2018, 07:19 AM
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#85
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Yeah that article is not flattering for him and a pretty bad way to end his career but he was catering to an angry fanbase as a lot of posters here ate that up and ran with it.
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And that’s the problem. He’s full of it. He’s like a sports Anne Coulter. Try’s to drum up the most controversial things he can just to get attention. It’s embarrassing.
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06-29-2018, 08:05 AM
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#86
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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I guess we can put a cap on mommy-given careers at 25 years then?
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06-29-2018, 08:18 AM
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#87
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#1 Goaltender
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I know its sportsnet but the flames will influence the hire hugely and if francis gets the tvhosting gig that would be just so incredibly tone deaf. But as we've all seen from the jerseys and the arena stuff, that would be right in line with how the flames have been approaching things lately. At least we are not the sens.
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06-29-2018, 08:19 AM
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#88
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
I guess we can put a cap on mommy-given careers at 25 years then?
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Heh, I love how people think this is some sort of dig or it doesn't happen in literally every industry all over the world.
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06-29-2018, 08:24 AM
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#89
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Or he could genuinely believe that Monahan doesn't play hard enough without the puck and doesn't play with much emotion, irrespective of his recent injuries.
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I know your beliefs fall inline with his article (must be a little embarrassing that you fell for it) but the fact of the matter is we know it was an opinion article. The problem is that it was an uninformed opinion as he didn't have enough information regarding Monahan's health and it makes him look like a tabloid writer.
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06-29-2018, 08:25 AM
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#90
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by Matty81
I know its sportsnet but the flames will influence the hire hugely and if francis gets the tvhosting gig that would be just so incredibly tone deaf. But as we've all seen from the jerseys and the arena stuff, that would be right in line with how the flames have been approaching things lately. At least we are not the sens.
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Announced this Fall:
Eric Francis - Flames Lead Jersey Designer.
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06-29-2018, 08:40 AM
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#91
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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I try my best to to kick people in their way out so I'll preface this with he did say some decent things ocassionaly and was willing to criticize things nobody else would.
But that said, his clickbait, shock value way of doing articles and presenting his opinion as fact got old extremely fast and was incredibly unprofessional.
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06-29-2018, 09:09 AM
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#92
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Weitz
Heh, I love how people think this is some sort of dig or it doesn't happen in literally every industry all over the world.
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Who said nepotism was isolated to postmedia?
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06-29-2018, 10:27 AM
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#93
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
I guess we can put a cap on mommy-given careers at 25 years then?
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People need to give that narrative a rest. No doubt his mom had a hand in getting him the job. Lots of people get internships through family connections. But Francis wouldn't have lasted 2 years in a businesses as competitive and with as much turnover as journalism, let alone 25, if he didn't do the job well.
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Originally Posted by fotze
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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06-29-2018, 10:57 AM
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#94
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty81
I know its sportsnet but the flames will influence the hire hugely and if francis gets the tvhosting gig that would be just so incredibly tone deaf. But as we've all seen from the jerseys and the arena stuff, that would be right in line with how the flames have been approaching things lately. At least we are not the sens.
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Not sure what you mean by the jerseys.... yes people want retro. This is not to say they are not working on it and in these cases there is always a focus group that gives input, a team can’t simply change a jersey because a fan board demands it. There are timelines that the league mandates for these things as well. Also how are they tone deaf on the arena? It seems to me they would really like a new one.
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06-29-2018, 11:06 AM
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#95
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
People need to give that narrative a rest. No doubt his mom had a hand in getting him the job. Lots of people get internships through family connections. But Francis wouldn't have lasted 2 years in a businesses as competitive and with as much turnover as journalism, let alone 25, if he didn't do the job well.
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The majority of which was spent working for the competition.
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06-29-2018, 11:17 AM
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#96
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Yeah that article is not flattering for him and a pretty bad way to end his career but he was catering to an angry fanbase as a lot of posters here ate that up and ran with it.
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But that's the point. That's what he has done his whole career. He takes the lowest fruit approach to reporting. Be antagonistic...be contrary...BE NEGATIVE. Than back pedal when things turn out differently. Anytime he came on the TV or radio, I turned the channel. Just a lazy journalist.
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06-29-2018, 11:18 AM
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#97
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
People need to give that narrative a rest. No doubt his mom had a hand in getting him the job. Lots of people get internships through family connections. But Francis wouldn't have lasted 2 years in a businesses as competitive and with as much turnover as journalism, let alone 25, if he didn't do the job well.
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Exactly...so what if family helped him get a job. I've done that for my kids and will continue to use my connections to better their lives. The self sanctimonious attitude about his issue is just ugly.
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06-29-2018, 11:30 AM
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#98
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Quite possible he will not be replaced. I can see Postmedia having a single "NHL columnist" covering both Alberta teams.
I expect a lot of other long-tenured newsroom staff will be heading for the exits as well.
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Well they already have Kristen Anderson (@KdotAnderson on Twitter) who describes herself as:
Calgary Flames beat reporter for Postmedia, five years and counting. Calgary Chapter chair for @PHWA. Occasionally on @NHLnetwork. kanderson@postmedia.com
I'd expect she will continue as she is young, and likely paid a lot less than EF was.
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06-29-2018, 11:46 AM
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#99
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Announced this Fall:
Eric Francis - Flames Lead Jersey Designer.
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Eric Francis - Flames Arena Event Centre Project Manager
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06-29-2018, 02:16 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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Kudos, Eric on a job.....done.
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