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Old 03-20-2023, 02:52 PM   #5361
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Lies , misdirection, bs.

You know Jagmeet will vote against Telford having to testify.

This all for show rinse, repeat, and watch Canada get worse every day.

Hands down, the current Liberal/NDP government will be known as the most corrupt and least transparent in our entire history.

Can’t wait for Freeland’s fiscally responsible budget.


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Lies , misdirection, bs.

You know Jagmeet will vote against Telford having to testify.

This all for show rinse, repeat, and watch Canada get worse every day.

Hands down, the current Liberal/NDP government will be known as the most corrupt and least transparent in our entire history.

Can’t wait for Freeland’s fiscally responsible budget.


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Do tell...

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Old 03-20-2023, 04:03 PM   #5365
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If it happens I doubt that the NDP, even with a free vote, would bring down the government.
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Old 03-20-2023, 07:08 PM   #5366
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Of course they're not going to bring down the government.

But if the Liberals are willing to turn into that, what on earth do they have to hide? Sheesh.
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That’s just gross. You can either vote in full confidence of the government or force an election under the cloud of election interference. I think this brazen act out in the open is actually worse than whatever interference we might find. I suspect he isn’t hiding something related to foreign interference but instead something that will be uncovered by an investigation into foreign interference. It’s easy to blame rising associations, tighten procedures, and say you did a quiet internal investigation and were letting the situation play itself out knowing the individuals were compromised. I think you skate through a scandle like that.

The only possible good outcome is that there is a national security reason the liberals didn’t act. That there is some spycraft going on here. That would line up with the Americans comments on outcomes not being influenced. I doubt this is the case. There is probably just some blatant policy buying from companies within Canada for contracts using the same influence mechanism the Chinese were using.

So how does parliamentary procedure work here could the house walk out in protest forcing the liberals to have a unanimous vote themselves which would show the absurdity of the situation without backing the government then come back on the next opposition day a pass a motion to investigate.
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That’s just gross. You can either vote in full confidence of the government or force an election under the cloud of election interference. I think this brazen act out in the open is actually worse than whatever interference we might find. I suspect he isn’t hiding something related to foreign interference but instead something that will be uncovered by an investigation into foreign interference. It’s easy to blame rising associations, tighten procedures, and say you did a quiet internal investigation and were letting the situation play itself out knowing the individuals were compromised. I think you skate through a scandle like that.

The only possible good outcome is that there is a national security reason the liberals didn’t act. That there is some spycraft going on here. That would line up with the Americans comments on outcomes not being influenced. I doubt this is the case. There is probably just some blatant policy buying from companies within Canada for contracts using the same influence mechanism the Chinese were using.

So how does parliamentary procedure work here could the house walk out in protest forcing the liberals to have a unanimous vote themselves which would show the absurdity of the situation without backing the government then come back on the next opposition day a pass a motion to investigate.
Plus, so far we have seen that other parties are caught up in this as well.

Doug Ford's government hasn't come down because his party ran into this issue. The guy resigned and people moved on.

But what Trudeau is doing is very obviously just hiding something big.

Question now is, what power does the HoC have to deal with this?
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If it happens I doubt that the NDP, even with a free vote, would bring down the government.
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Only reason Trudeau is not making it a confidence motion is there's too much risk he's not going to win. NDP either has not indicated support for Trudeau or Singh has indicate to Trudeau he'll let his MPs vote freely and most of them are pro bringing down the government.

Its funny how much this whole scandal is self inflicted. If there were a public inquiry to begin with, LPC would have had to deal with much less fallout and probably would have gotten away with an apology or a convenient fall guy.
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Jagmeet Singh just said that he will push the government to force Telford to testify and if they won't the NDP's will support the opposition motion today.

So, if the Liberals want to make this a confidence vote I guess the government is going down.
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Jagmeet Singh just said that he will push the government to force Telford to testify and if they won't the NDP's will support the opposition motion today.

So, if the Liberals want to make this a confidence vote I guess the government is going down.
Not if China has anything to say about it!
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well, it would appear that the Liberals blinked - which is good (i think) as i am not ready to see Canada spenda another $600m plus for an election that would likely result in a similar answer to what we currently have

i can't wait to see what dumb tweets come out of mark gerretsen's mind today
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In other words, the PMO has had enough time to determine what to tell the committee to satiate them to a degree and have coached Telford well enough to be comfortable with her appearance.
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In other words, the PMO has had enough time to determine what to tell the committee to satiate them to a degree and have coached Telford well enough to be comfortable with her appearance.
Yeah, I'm interested in how evasive she is. During the WE testimony she was slippery. I don't remember, I don't have those facts in hand. etc.

But the key question is who got briefed and when.
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