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Old 02-27-2020, 12:39 PM   #21
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Cornavirus is a crock and scare tactic. It's just another flu bug and fatalities are same older demographic or people with compromised immune systems that would be dying from the typical flu. News conveniently never reveals age or prior health condition of victims.
Honest question: How much research have you put into your opinion?
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Old 02-27-2020, 12:56 PM   #23
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In Italy the 4 deaths have been aged 78, 77, 68, 84. Not sure if they had prior health issues as well.
And so? This is not the flu, it is something different and highly contagious...if unchecked, it can shut down an entire region and overwhelm hospitals.

On top of that, I don't know if it can mutate and become something worse, but they are now proving that you do not build an immunity to it, and can catch it again...or it repeats on it's own inside you.

What do you think about vaccinations and immunizations in general?
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Old 02-27-2020, 12:58 PM   #24
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But it's a new virus, on top of the flu. If they can keep a handle on it, billions of dollars will be saved and millions of lives. If they can't contain it then yes cold and flu season becomes cold, flu and covid season but when 1-2% is applied to millions/billions of people, those are deaths every year that haven't happened before. Your argument seems to be its a crock but if it's not, that it's ok because old people will die and you aren't old. Christ.

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But it's a new virus, on top of the flu. If they can keep a handle on it, billions of dollars will be saved and millions of lives. If they can't contain it then yes cold and flu season becomes cold, flu and covoid season but when 1-2% is applied to millions/billions of people, those are deaths every year that haven't happened before. Your argument seems to be its a crock but if it's not, that it's ok because old people will die and you aren't old. Christ.
Containment seems unrealistic. History has shown that even if a country cuts off all international travel, that will only add some extra months, and people are too stupid/lazy to wash their hands properly regardless of how worried they are. The latest predictions I've seen have about 40%-70% of world population catching it. Of course most people get only mild symptoms and never realize it was corona.

What they're doing is buying time and hoping someone can develop a vaccine fast enough to make a difference this season. Plus slowing the spread of the disease helps countries prepare and stops the epidemic from blowing up everywhere at once, which would create medication shortages.

The consensus prediction at this point is also that this WILL become a new seasonal epidemic. However, it's unlikely to be as deadly or as contagious next season, as people will have at least partial immunity.

What I'm personally worried about is that I have tickets to Flames@Rangers and Flames@Islanders about three weeks from now. First time I'd get to see the Flames live, a dream I've had for over a decade, one that I thought would never happen because it's a rather extreme financial commitment for someone with my income...

If there's a travel restriction or the games are cancelled, I'm seriously going to lose it.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:11 PM   #26
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Cases have gone from 1000 to 80,000 in the past 4-6 weeks. And that's with containment policies in place. It's plausible exponential growth continues...that's 80,000% growth. Extrapolation gets you to as many as 7,000,000 infected a month from now and a world wide epidemic at the end of April. Even if the rate slows markedly, it delays an arguably inevitable outcome only 2-4 months.

The financial markets are catching on about a week late...
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:17 PM   #28
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That's why I'm keeping up to date with it too; flying to Croatia in 3 weeks to see the ladyfriend.

I'm not sure if they could realistically get a vaccine out quick enough due to the amount of testing required, though things have been incredibly quick on the vaccinedevelopment side of things, relative to any other time in history. Would obviously be happy to be proved wrong if they can get something out to high risk people.
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That's why I'm keeping up to date with it too; flying to Croatia in 3 weeks to see the ladyfriend.

I'm not sure if they could realistically get a vaccine out quick enough due to the amount of testing required, though things have been incredibly quick on the vaccinedevelopment side of things, relative to any other time in history. Would obviously be happy to be proved wrong if they can get something out to high risk people.
I'm on a trans atlantic cruise from Fla to Barcelona next week. I'm assuming it's a go. There's only one case in Spain IIRC.
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That's why I'm keeping up to date with it too; flying to Croatia in 3 weeks to see the ladyfriend.

I'm not sure if they could realistically get a vaccine out quick enough due to the amount of testing required, though things have been incredibly quick on the vaccinedevelopment side of things, relative to any other time in history. Would obviously be happy to be proved wrong if they can get something out to high risk people.
There's been a big push to find faster ways to develop vaccines since SARS (which was also a coronavirus). From what I've read, it's unlikely that a vaccine might make it in time to really save the day, but it might come in time to help in the later stages of the pandemic. Obviously depending on lots of variables. For comparison the swine flu pandemic lasted about two years, and vaccine might be in production about a year from now.

In the meantime, wash your hands people, and cough in your sleeve.

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Herion beer infused with Pastor Jim Bakker's Miracle Silver Solution should nix the issue.
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Herion beer infused with Pastor Jim Bakker's Miracle Silver Solution should nix the issue.
I believe the nacho cheese has some medicinal properties as well.
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It's a lot of money and no one will give it up. It is possible if there will be problems replacing players, but I do not think there will be a great chance to cancel the matches.
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Switzerland has just banned public gatherings of more than 1000 people until mid-March. I did not know this, but the Swiss National League outdraws even the KHL with average attendances around 7000.
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It's a lot of money and no one will give it up. It is possible if there will be problems replacing players, but I do not think there will be a great chance to cancel the matches.
But that's not what's happening in countries that are affected, why do you think we'd be different here? Matches are generally either cancelled or played to empty stadiums, either way meaning no revenue.

Also, it isn't going to be up to the leagues if Canada/US decide that sports matches are part of a quarantine effort.
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Anyone checked their season ticket contracts? maybe a clause referencing no refunds due to natural disaster or something like that?
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