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Old 03-27-2021, 01:50 AM   #9901
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In my opinion we need to trade Ryan, Bennett and Nesterov for a picks as they will leave for sure.
If you want retool, I would trade Hanifin for 1st rounder and young F prospect. He's playing best hockey because of Tanev, so his trade value is highest now.
Of season, try flip Monahan for younger C with higher ceiling.
If you trade Johnny we need get back high end prospect and draft pick but not sure about his NTC.
I don't like Tkachuk salary but I want to keep it. If you can get lots return I would trade him.

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Old 03-27-2021, 07:03 AM   #9902
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For a UFA? Pfft
Pending UFA’s get traded for 1st rounders pretty much every year
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Old 03-27-2021, 08:38 AM   #9903
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Old 03-27-2021, 09:24 AM   #9904
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You really think he was signing long term in Calgary?
I dunno, I think CGY had a pretty good shot. I just don't take what a guy said after the fact as evidence of anythihng.
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Old 03-27-2021, 09:29 AM   #9905
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Trade Derek Ryan to the Oilers with 50% retained and a COVID infection.
you know what? hate edmonton all you want, but covid jokes are not funny.
you do know people are still ####ing dying from it every single day, don't you?

including friends and family of people that post on this board.
covid shouldn't be a punchline for a bad joke.
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Old 03-27-2021, 09:37 AM   #9906
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Ryan is not worth much 5th maybe considering what Stall got
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Old 03-27-2021, 09:47 AM   #9907
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In my opinion we need to trade Ryan, Bennett and Nesterov for a picks as they will leave for sure.
If you want retool, I would trade Hanifin for 1st rounder and young F prospect. He's playing best hockey because of Tanev, so his trade value is highest now.
Of season, try flip Monahan for younger C with higher ceiling.
If you trade Johnny we need get back high end prospect and draft pick but not sure about his NTC.
I don't like Tkachuk salary but I want to keep it. If you can get lots return I would trade him.
Those are reasonable suggestions, though I believe it's best to hold onto Hanifin. In respect to Gaudreau if you could get Mercer and a first from Jersey, that would be a solid return in today's market. Gaudreau is capable of moving the needle for the Devils, but even his reasonable contract presents problems which limit the options in moving him. Unfortunately, given the history of Sutter and Treliving It is more likely they convert any assets into safer returns, which increases the likelihood the fan base is a bit more unethused in 4-5 years. Hopefully management can see the changing landscape and understands that there is a path to a quick build with abrupt commitment. In three years the team might look like Carolina, or Nashville, and as a fan I know which team I would prefer to support.
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Old 03-27-2021, 09:49 AM   #9908
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Flames have what everyone wants.... skilled but lazy players...
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Old 03-27-2021, 10:49 AM   #9909
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Flames have what everyone wants.... skilled but lazy players...
I don’t think they’re lazy, I think they’re simply outclassed by other teams first lines.

We have some really attractive depth pieces for teams with elite talent already.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:08 AM   #9910
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In my opinion we need to trade Ryan, Bennett and Nesterov for a picks as they will leave for sure.
If you want retool, I would trade Hanifin for 1st rounder and young F prospect. He's playing best hockey because of Tanev, so his trade value is highest now.
Of season, try flip Monahan for younger C with higher ceiling.
If you trade Johnny we need get back high end prospect and draft pick but not sure about his NTC.
I don't like Tkachuk salary but I want to keep it. If you can get lots return I would trade him.
I would add Rittich and Lievo to the list of players that could be moved at the deadline
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:20 AM   #9911
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My takes:


Ryan for 3rd or 4th
Bennett for a late 1st pick (Leafs, Avs etc)
Nesterov 4th or 5th
Rittch 2nd or 3rd
Lievo 6th


Flames can recoup the 3rd and 4th picks in this draft but also add potential another 1st, 2nd 5th and 6th picks. Thats just of the trade deadline. Now if the draft is looking better next year than try to get 2022 picks.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:36 AM   #9912
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I think those are all really optimistic
A late first for Sam? Why would anyone do that
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:37 AM   #9913
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Nobody's giving up a first for Bennett.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:38 AM   #9914
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Ryan for 3rd or 4th
Bennett for a late 1st pick (Leafs, Avs etc)
Nesterov 4th or 5th
Rittch 2nd or 3rd
Lievo 6th


Flames can recoup the 3rd and 4th picks in this draft but also add potential another 1st, 2nd 5th and 6th picks. Thats just of the trade deadline. Now if the draft is looking better next year than try to get 2022 picks.
At first I thought the Flames won’t get a 1st for Bennett. Given he has arb rights and the expansion draft, I would imagine no team is protecting him.

That said, what’s the value of a first round pick this year? I believe this years draft wasn’t really thought to be that strong before the pandemic. It will be interesting to see if Treliving can pry that sort of asset for Bennett. A more likely scenario could be a former 1st who is struggling to find his game.

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Old 03-27-2021, 11:46 AM   #9915
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you know what? hate edmonton all you want, but covid jokes are not funny.
you do know people are still ####ing dying from it every single day, don't you?

including friends and family of people that post on this board.
covid shouldn't be a punchline for a bad joke.
He wasn't joking
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:47 AM   #9916
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Tampa paid a first for Barclay Goodrow last year. Bennett is a proven playoff performer, so it’s entirely possible he nets a first.

How about Bennett for Jost?
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:47 AM   #9917
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I would not do JG for TK makes no sense get picks from the Flyers
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:48 AM   #9918
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Playoff Sam, deserves a first. He gets 20 points for you on a long playoff run. Let’s be clear he is as consistent in playoffs as he is in the regular season, just in a more positive light.

Absolutely gets a first draft pick.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:52 AM   #9919
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You get 3rd or 4th for Bennett
Rittich probably gets you two second
Leivo 4th or 5th
The rest is about correct

But we should consider floating anybody for an overpayment
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:54 AM   #9920
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Ryan’s value might depend on eating some salary. If the Flames are out they can eat the max.
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