"Bill Whitaker: Could it be Russian or Chinese technology?
Ryan Graves: I don't see why not."
Bad quote is bad. If the military thought it was Russian or Chinese technology they would have a much more aggressive strategy in dealing with these "incursions." They would not be taking a wait and see attitude. Also, the intelligence community would have a pretty good idea if it were Russian or Chinese tech. That statement is ignoring the fact that these craft have been observed in these areas for decades. That would mean the Russian or the Chinese have been tooling around in these physics defying objects for as long as airframes have been in existence. That doesn't add up. Add in the tech development history of these two countries, and their reliance on espionage and intellectual property theft, and it sounds a bad guess with little sabre rattling for good measure. Wouldn't be the first time 60 Minutes participated in a propaganda campaign.
Pretty much eh.
“Hmmm how do we get the attention of American politicians???”
“Say it’s a Chinese or Russian threat”
“Brilliant!”
*meanwhile China’s first stage booster came crashing down in an uncontrolled deorbit, while SpaceX is landing there’s upright on drone ships…..*
the object defies the laws of physics as we know it (no sonic booms, no visible flight control surfaces like wings, rudders, no visible exhaust plumes, unbelievable speeds)...
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Former President Obama weighs in on the subject
In an appearance on "The Late Late Show" earlier this week, Obama confessed this: "The truth is that when I came into office, I asked, right, I was like, 'Alright, is there the lab somewhere where we're keeping the alien specimens and space ship?' And you know, they did a little bit of research and the answer was no."
Which, OK, he was joking. But then Obama said more about UFOs -- and this is where things got really interesting.
Here's Obama:
"What is true, and I'm actually being serious here, is that there are, there's footage and records of objects in the skies, that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is."
In an appearance on "The Late Late Show" earlier this week, Obama confessed this: "The truth is that when I came into office, I asked, right, I was like, 'Alright, is there the lab somewhere where we're keeping the alien specimens and space ship?' And you know, they did a little bit of research and the answer was no."
Which, OK, he was joking. But then Obama said more about UFOs -- and this is where things got really interesting.
Here's Obama:
"What is true, and I'm actually being serious here, is that there are, there's footage and records of objects in the skies, that we don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they moved, their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. And so, you know, I think that people still take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is."
There was definitely some levity in how he spoke regarding asking about aliens when he first became president, but I think he's being honest. I'm willing to bet all presidents try to find out more when they get to that office.
The second part I think he's just referring to the videos already made public, or at least it's reasonable to assume that. Great politician.
I feel like we're getting buttered up for the uap report to congress (or maybe something else!).
There was definitely some levity in how he spoke regarding asking about aliens when he first became president, but I think he's being honest. I'm willing to bet all presidents try to find out more when they get to that office.
The second part I think he's just referring to the videos already made public, or at least it's reasonable to assume that. Great politician.
I feel like we're getting buttered up for the uap report to congress (or maybe something else!).
I wouldn't hold my breath. I am expecting to get a very vague report without any theories or conclusions included.. Basically just a yup, there are aerial phenomena that we don't understand and we are researching it. The U.S. government can't confirm eye witness reports or the opinions drawn from them. Yada, yada, yada.
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These guys do speak in very convincing manners and I am sure they believe what they say is true.
But the way the U.S. government works on top secret programs, there is a purposeful disconnect between different departments and different ranks. Very few people, if anyone, actually have a the full picture. This is done to prevent someone from leaking important information, and if anything, all these recent leaks of videos and eye witness accounts, justifies the need to keep people in the dark, even people participating in the programs.
Some of the military personnel seem to assume that they have access to all the information them need, for example, claiming that the technology is 100 to 1000 years ahead of anything we currently have. It assumes he has the privilege to know everything that has happened past and present. There seems to be a lack of awareness or admission to the fact that they don't know what they don't know, and that is intended.
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There was definitely some levity in how he spoke regarding asking about aliens when he first became president, but I think he's being honest. I'm willing to bet all presidents try to find out more when they get to that office.
The second part I think he's just referring to the videos already made public, or at least it's reasonable to assume that. Great politician.
I feel like we're getting buttered up for the uap report to congress (or maybe something else!).
The released report will much to do about nothing. If they know something they're certainly not going to reveal anything eye opening. It will be like all the other UFO releases the govt has done over the years.
One of the guys said they'd see them every day on missions. As Stephen Colbert pointed out, if you know the are going to be around, why not bring a decent camera? If they are this common, how is someone not getting good pictures and video of them? I know they move fast, but come on. This seems like it should be a priority if some unknown craft are invading air space.
One of the guys said they'd see them every day on missions. As Stephen Colbert pointed out, if you know the are going to be around, why not bring a decent camera? If they are this common, how is someone not getting good pictures and video of them? I know they move fast, but come on. This seems like it should be a priority if some unknown craft are invading air space.
My personal theory is that the U.S. is experimenting with cutting edge technology that they don't want to make public yet and are preventing pilots from getting too close. The actual UAP are not the major national security threat. The national security threat is coming from the insiders who feel they are entitled to release the information to the public.
I am not even convinced that the technology being displayed is aerial in nature. It could be holographical and remote instrument manipulation technology to make it seem like something is there that isn't. It would explain why they can never get close and are not allowed near the airspace with weapons.
The best way to see if you can baffle an enemy would be to first see if you can baffle your own pilots.
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Good theory. If it's aliens, why are they mostly seen around US military bases? That east coast area is a massive concentration of US forces. Most of this stuff just breaks down when you logically try to analyze it. Is something weird going on? Sure. Does that mean it's aliens? No more than thinking Zeus makes lightning.
Interstellar travelers would be so technologically advanced why would they bother to study our primitive aircraft. We think we're hot ####, but really we're still tribal nation states barely 250 years from feudal dirt farmers.
I tend to think if there is anything, they've been here for a while. And our oceans are somehow involved.
And if they find these things have been around for a long time on our planet, think about how they could have been recording human history all of this time. Would be incredible to get access to what they have witnessed for the evolution of our species.
Additionally, I do wonder if this is the "inflection point" of human history wherein our current socio/economic/political state with where our technology is (almost a spacefaring species) is going to create some sort public disclosure to us being introduced to a "bigger audience", and we are no longer as intelligent as we think we are compared to what is actually out there.
Good theory. If it's aliens, why are they mostly seen around US military bases? That east coast area is a massive concentration of US forces. Most of this stuff just breaks down when you logically try to analyze it. Is something weird going on? Sure. Does that mean it's aliens? No more than thinking Zeus makes lightning.
Remember when crop circles were a thing?
Isn’t that also where you would have the most eyes and ears monitoring airspace, by far? Around military bases? That increases the odds of seeing something significantly. How is that not logical?
It is estimated that 3 Billion people in the world have smart phones (with cameras). Every day that passes without a clear picture of a UFO, Bigfoot, Nessie, Ghosts, makes me think it ain't gonna happen.
I remain open to the possibility - it sure is interesting.
