A tactical anaylsis of how the battle of winterfell should have been fought. Watching these events play out would have been much more interesting than watching each of the main characters almost get overwhelmed by wights 4-5 times each.
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^ An actual strategy like that would have been amazing to watch. Of course the wights would have gotten through but that's how you can build suspense too. You watch each layer of defense be destroyed one by one instead of all at once with main characters surviving somehow.
The scene wasn't a huge problem for me, but surely you can understand why people are annoyed with the setup. I mean everyone who tries to kill a Dragon is a crack shot. Bronn hit a dragon, Night King hits one, second dragon is killed with ease. The ballistas destroyed a fleet in a matter of moments. Based on how events have unfolded in the show it seems like Cersei could have easily killed everyone.
I think it's poor writing to have the scene setup how it was in the first place. Perhaps the only reason for the scene was the pregnancy give away by Tyrion? We already knew Cersie is heartless, killing Missandei doesn't need to do that.
There were a number of reasons for that scene, depending on your subjective interpretation, including hammering home the fact that Tyrion does not understand his sister as well as he thinks he does, and/or provoking Dany into a violent and rash response.
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There were a number of reasons for that scene, depending on your subjective interpretation, including hammering home the fact that Tyrion does not understand his sister as well as he thinks he does, and/or provoking Dany into a violent and rash response.
I’m actually surprised so many people think the prudent thing to do would be to open fire on a diplomatic meeting. If Cersei could ether get Dany to go back to Essos by using displays of power, it would benefit her far more than forcing an escalation. Yeah sure a few people are personally upset about the execution, but I doubt the Dothraki or Northern Army are going to care all that much. But they might if Dany was slaughtered during a meeting.
Like you said, there is also the angle that Cersei can play the victim card if Dany attacks first. Cersei’s people hate Cercei, but they can be convinced Dany is worse, they may fight for her. If Cercei attacks first, she loses all benefit of the doubt.
There is also the fact that if a battle happens and Even if she wins, she is surrounded by other enemies.
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I believe the preview for the next episode showed Danaerys back at Dragonstone with a specific emphasis placed on the gigantic dragon statues and carvings there. My guess is we're gonna see some more dragons coming along in some way, or she finds some dragon armor or something else useful there. I'm guessing Euron is looking at a kitted out dragon flying down on his fleet. I've also been totally wrong in most of my predictions so far though, so. . . .
Cersei has always been about herself and the power she can wield. She's standing on the top of the forefront of the castle wall, along with all her advisors/allies. She is in direct harm if she unleashes hell.
All she was trying to do was provoke Danyerys to do what Cersei had always wanted her to do: make Dany the enemy by having her slaughtering innocents in an attempt to get at her for revenge.
The writing may not be as sharp as it was, but it seems to be out of grasp for a solid section of fans.
So the idea is that Daenarys would take her dragon and slaughter innocent people but not the person who's standing on the top of the forefront of the castle wall?
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Well, they had a direwolf too.
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No one's even mentioned the Stormlands army disappearing into thin air, despite them being the backbone of Roberts Rebellion.
Split in two between Renly and Stannis. Blackwater takes out a huge chunk. Many desertions in the north and then mostly destroyed by Bolton. I think they did a relatively good job of showing them get snuffed out.
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So the idea is that Daenarys would take her dragon and slaughter innocent people but not the person who's standing on the top of the forefront of the castle wall?
Good luck ruling over people who know you roasted their queen, allies, and brothers and sisters during a parlay when they already think you're a foreign invader and usurper.
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No one's even mentioned the Stormlands army disappearing into thin air, despite them being the backbone of Roberts Rebellion.
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Split in two between Renly and Stannis. Blackwater takes out a huge chunk. Many desertions in the north and then mostly destroyed by Bolton. I think they did a relatively good job of showing them get snuffed out.
Yeah this was explained very well. They didn't just disappear into thin air, they were gradually weakened over a few seasons before ultimately being wiped out by the Boltons. I guess we could have gotten a few lines explaining if there are any Storm Lords left and who is currently controlling Storm's End but it's not really relevant to the story.
Comparing how the Baratheon Army destruction occurred with how the destruction of Dany's Army is currently occurring is a good example of the drop off in writing in later seasons.
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