08-16-2022, 11:02 PM
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#6101
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Mull
Never thought I would feel bad for Liz. But it’s factually accurate to say she is getting the boot for doing the right thing… despite any other enabling or other crappy things she may of done.
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Counterpoint:
https://twitter.com/user/status/1559730715427610625
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08-16-2022, 11:10 PM
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#6102
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Yeah, that's a really dumb take.
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08-16-2022, 11:22 PM
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#6103
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Powerplay Quarterback
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American Politics 3.0 - Back to Brunch
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Originally Posted by rubecube
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I don’t understand why you responded with that given what I wrote. I suggest you read what I wrote?
Last edited by Mull; 08-17-2022 at 07:23 AM.
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08-17-2022, 06:09 AM
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#6104
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08-17-2022, 10:18 AM
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#6105
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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My sense with Liz Cheney is that she's also playing the long game for what she hopes will be a presidential run at a time when the Republicans swing back out of MAGA lunacy in future.
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08-17-2022, 10:45 AM
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#6106
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary - Centre West
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
My sense with Liz Cheney is that she's also playing the long game for what she hopes will be a presidential run at a time when the Republicans swing back out of MAGA lunacy in future.
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That's one hell of a long game.
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08-17-2022, 10:47 AM
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#6107
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mull
I don’t understand why you responded with that given what I wrote. I suggest you read what I wrote?
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My bad. I think I misread that you felt bad for her.
For some of the rest of you, lighten up a little. It's clearly meant to be a tad facetious.
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08-17-2022, 10:50 AM
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#6108
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
My sense with Liz Cheney is that she's also playing the long game for what she hopes will be a presidential run at a time when the Republicans swing back out of MAGA lunacy in future.
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Nah. You're overthinking it. She was projected to lose her primary long before she became a vocal opponent of Trump. Her actions since have been done to preserve her post-congress K street and media ambitions.
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08-17-2022, 10:50 AM
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#6109
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
My sense with Liz Cheney is that she's also playing the long game for what she hopes will be a presidential run at a time when the Republicans swing back out of MAGA lunacy in future.
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Once the indictments and subsequent convictions start rolling of these MAGA clowns people like Cheney and Kinzinger will hold all the "trump" cards in the GOP.
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08-17-2022, 10:52 AM
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#6110
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Franchise Player
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Maybe she could get governor of Wisconsin?
... But yeah, the media talking head thing is a safer bet.
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08-17-2022, 10:55 AM
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#6111
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Maybe she could get governor of Wisconsin?
... But yeah, the media talking head thing is a safer bet.
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Wyoming?
Anyways, apparently arresting terrorists is now bad because Biden or something.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1559666313739620352
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08-17-2022, 11:04 AM
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#6112
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Franchise Player
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No, she was born in Wisconsin. Seems more likely to get elected there as it's more moderate.
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08-17-2022, 11:16 AM
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#6113
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
That's one hell of a long game.
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She's only 56. She has plenty of time.
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08-17-2022, 11:31 AM
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#6114
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary - Centre West
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
She's only 56. She has plenty of time.
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You're talking about her longevity, I'm talking about the longevity of the GOP to continue down the MAGA / GQP path. I think it easily outlasts Trump himself and for a long time.
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08-17-2022, 11:42 AM
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#6115
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
My bad. I think I misread that you felt bad for her.
For some of the rest of you, lighten up a little. It's clearly meant to be a tad facetious.
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I don't get this at all to be honest. You posted a tweet with the same sup argument as mine and just a different conclusion.
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08-17-2022, 11:46 AM
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#6116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
I really don't understand why they continue to idolize Trump. He's a loser. He lost to Joe Biden. Who lines up behind a loser? Giant losers, that's who.
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He's also sabatoging their chances of winning of the Senate which they were highly favoured to do before he decided to endorse god awful candidates like Dr. Oz and Hershel Walker.
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08-17-2022, 11:49 AM
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#6117
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
He's also sabatoging their chances of winning of the Senate which they were highly favoured to do before he decided to endorse god awful candidates like Dr. Oz and Hershel Walker.
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I don't think he is sabotaging on purpose.
I think its:
- These Candidates suck up to him publicly and or privately - making him feel relevant
- He truly believes his endorsement will carry candidates in the general election despite reality saying otherwise
I think part of him, somehow, still thinks he had the 2020 election stolen from him. Its pathetic given what the Jan 6 committee showed us he was told, but I actually believe that
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08-17-2022, 11:51 AM
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#6118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mull
Well at least it’s the house and not the senate
That seat Went 68% votes to republicans in 2020 and 64% in 2018
I wonder given how crazy the new republican candidate is what the actual odds are of a democratic victory
538 shows 99% Hagmen winning - already showing her as the candidate.
Although I couldn’t find their data sources and polls. I wonder if they don’t reflect the actual candidates yet.
Anyway I think it’s a pipe dream
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She'll win in a landslide.
Also continues to be absurd that a state with 550,000 people gets the same amount of senators as California (40 million) or Texas (30 million). I don't think having a second body of government that is set differently is a terrible idea but its just a guarantee of general stasis.
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08-17-2022, 12:34 PM
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#6119
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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