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View Poll Results: Best prospect from the following list?
Andersson 6 1.39%
Bruce 0 0%
Carroll 0 0%
Culkin 1 0.23%
Dube 0 0%
Falkovsky 0 0%
Fox 0 0%
Gillies 168 38.98%
Hamilton 0 0%
Harrison 0 0%
Hathaway 0 0%
Hickey 34 7.89%
Jankowski 174 40.37%
Kanzig 0 0%
Karnaukhov 0 0%
Klimchuck 0 0%
Kulak 0 0%
Kylington 23 5.34%
Lindstrom 0 0%
Mangiapane 6 1.39%
Mattson 0 0%
McDonald 0 0%
Morrison 0 0%
Ollas Mattsson 2 0.46%
Parsons 0 0%
Phillips 0 0%
Poirier 0 0%
Pollock 0 0%
Pribyl 0 0%
Rafikov 0 0%
Rittich 0 0%
Schneider 0 0%
Shinkaruk 14 3.25%
Smith 1 0.23%
Tuulola 1 0.23%
Wotherspoon 1 0.23%
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Old 07-10-2016, 04:21 PM   #121
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Here's a neutral observer who has him in our top 5.

Either way, I'm not sure how a Flames bias would affect a ranking of Flames prospects relative to other Flames prospects.
I'm not sure Craig Button qualifies as a neutral observer when looking at players his brother drafted.
I'm not sure why a Flames bias would rank players differently than a neutral one, but looking at this thread every year, it clearly does.
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Old 07-10-2016, 04:25 PM   #122
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I'm not sure Craig Button qualifies as a neutral observer when looking at players his brother drafted..
Well his brother drafted all those players, so certainly any bias that way is nullified.
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I'm not sure why a Flames bias would rank players differently than a neutral one, but looking at this thread every year, it clearly does.
Perhaps you've confused familiarity with bias?

The average 'neutral' observer probably has not watched a Riley Bruce or an Adam Ollas-Mattson with any evaluative intent. Or for that matter paid attention to a Stockton Heat game with an intent to rank and project the individuals on the team. There will generally be a bias towards OHL prospects, particularily those playing close to the media hotbed that is Toronto. Then there will be a bias towards former top ten draft picks. Then there will be a bias towards the prettiest stats when judging unfamiliar players, even if one player racked up all their points on a "one stacked unit plays the entire power play" while the other played on a team with more NHL-type minutes distributions. These sort of things and many others affect what a so-called neutral observer perceives. As fans we do have a different perspective on account of following more closely through the highs and lows. A fan could tell you Morgan Klimchuk was actually pretty decent in his rookie season, a "neutral observer" might tell you to cut your losses ASAP. Doesn't mean we know as much about the players as professional scouts, coaches, management do, or how they stack up to the prospect pools of other teams - but it probably does make us qualified to rank them relative to one another.
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Well his brother drafted all those players, so certainly any bias that way is nullified.
He could be accused of propping up his brother's controversial long shot first round pick. So yeah, bias.
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Old 07-10-2016, 06:01 PM   #125
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He could be accused of propping up his brother's controversial long shot first round pick. So yeah, bias.
Yeah, that's it. Nailed it.

Christ.
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No run off? Janko and Gillies were separated by 7 votes, while 86 people voted for someone else.
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Old 07-10-2016, 06:58 PM   #127
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Jankowski at 2 is quite the stretch, I dare say that any neutral observer of our prospect pool would not have him in the top 5.
What a bizarre post.

Are you suggesting that Flames fans - all of us, or at least a very large portion of us - are biased towards Jankowski over other Flames prospects?

You don't think that maybe it makes a little more sense to instead suggest that you simply don't like him as much as most fans do?
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Old 07-10-2016, 07:07 PM   #128
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I think some fans have been speaking up for him for so many years against criticism, that they have overestimated his actually value. I have him pretty high on my list, but I don't think he is #2. Neutral observers don't have that history with him.
I'm stil cheering for him as hard as any Flames fan.
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