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Old 04-10-2021, 02:09 PM   #21
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With 50% retained at the trade deadline? Any of them. Maybe the flames have to take a salary back to make it work but this is not a large amount of money to fit under the cap.
If you look at contenders not many of them have the space to add Gio, even at 50% retained.
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Old 04-10-2021, 02:12 PM   #22
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Pretty doubtful as TB wouldn't have wanted that last year on Gio's contract. They are in cap hell after this season.
You can retain salary when you blow it up because new young players won’t cost as much. You need to commit to a rebuild when you do it. Calgary won’t. Dunno. I think Treliving is working under an Edwards style mantra where every deal must be win-lose, and like win by a wide margin win.
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Old 04-10-2021, 02:12 PM   #23
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If you look at contenders not many of them have the space to add Gio, even at 50% retained.
Do any of them have a player they could move the other way to balance out the money?
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Old 04-10-2021, 02:19 PM   #24
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Looks like this has the potential to be a huge trade!

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Blue jackets selling out to load up a contender like I want us to do.
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You can retain salary when you blow it up because new young players won’t cost as much. You need to commit to a rebuild when you do it. Calgary won’t. Dunno. I think Treliving is working under an Edwards style mantra where every deal must be win-lose, and like win by a wide margin win.
Retaining doesnt help TB next year...they are already in trouble without adding a dollar.

Now if the Flames took money back, then sure but thats not likely to happen until after the season...TB is in win now mode and want to give their guys another legit shot this season.
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Old 04-10-2021, 02:24 PM   #27
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Blue jackets selling out to load up a contender like I want us to do.
Why do we have to always be different. Like we know better.
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Blue jackets selling out to load up a contender like I want us to do.
All those guys mentioned are UFAs. Our UFAs are not quite as desirable. Prepare your self for a slap of reality.
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Old 04-10-2021, 02:27 PM   #29
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Savard was the best dman available. Not only does the Cup favourite snap him up, they keep him out of the hands of Boston, Florida, etc. Lightning going all in. This will be a historic choke if they don’t at least make the finals.
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Old 04-10-2021, 02:32 PM   #30
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Hard to imagine TBL being any better next year with Kucherov on the cap all year.

I’d also argue that this division is weaker than the usual alignment (BOS and TOR instead of CAR). Getting the 1 seed will be important.

Makes sense to go all-in.


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Old 04-10-2021, 02:33 PM   #31
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Savard was the best dman available. Not only does the Cup favourite snap him up, they keep him out of the hands of Boston, Florida, etc. Lightning going all in. This will be a historic choke if they don’t at least make the finals.
Not necessarily. As Cali mentioned there is Florida and Carolina to go through.
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Old 04-10-2021, 03:03 PM   #32
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Lol whoa. Detroit involved too

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Old 04-10-2021, 03:07 PM   #33
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Well that’s way different than what was reported
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Old 04-10-2021, 03:08 PM   #34
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So is this one of those that both Columbus and Detroit retain salary so basically Tampa barely had to pay him?
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Old 04-10-2021, 03:10 PM   #35
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Johnson?
Why would he agree to a trade? He likes it there and they are a Cup contender.
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Old 04-10-2021, 03:11 PM   #36
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Don’t get the deal for Cbj
They just get a 4th?
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Old 04-10-2021, 03:13 PM   #37
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Don’t get the deal for Cbj
They just get a 4th?
No.

They got Lashoff, a 1st, and a 3rd.

We’re all over here making excuses year in and year out for how hard it is to make deals in-season, and Tampa is over there playing 4D chess.
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https://www.tsn.ca/david-savard-trad...deal-1.1621343

This spells it all out
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TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun reports the full trade breaks down as follows:

Trade 1: Columbus trades David Savard to Detroit for Brian Lashoff. Columbus retains 50% of Savard.
Trade 2: Detroit trades David Savard to Tampa Bay for Tampa’s 4th round pick in the 2021 NHL Entry Draft. Detroit retains 50% of Savard.
Trade 3: Columbus trades Brian Lashoff to Tampa Bay for Tampa Bay’s 1st round pick in the 2021 NHL Entry Draft and Tampa Bay’s 3rd round pick in the 2022 NHL Entry Draft.


End result is:

Columbus retains 50% of Savard and acquires Tampa Bay’s 1st round pick in 2021 and 3rd round pick in 2022.

Detroit retains 25% of Savard, acquires Tampa Bay’s 4th round pick in 2021 and trades away Lashoff.

Tampa acquires Savard and Lashoff, trades away its 1st round pick in 2021, its 4th round pick in 2021 and its 3rd round pick in 2022.
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Don’t get the deal for Cbj
They just get a 4th?
*now that the full trade is broken down it makes more sense.
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