04-11-2021, 09:44 AM
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#11061
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agulati
I remember people used to complain about Brodie too, when he was on a similar contract. His performance exceeded his salary most years IMO.
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Absolutely correct, but also entirely different players.
I really don't know how anyone is able to confidently predict a player's future progression. Rasmus has been a big disappointment this year, I don't know how else to spin it. IMO it's entirely still unknown at this point whether he lives up to his contract or exceeds it.
As it relates to Brodie, I really think many of us are now seeing just how important he was to this team and unfortunately losing him for nothing has hurt. I was hoping Valimaki could grow into that role but not happening yet.
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04-11-2021, 04:52 PM
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#11062
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Franchise Player
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Eklund saying he is hearing rumblings about Johnny hockey at deadline. Yes I know, not a chance , but it’s the only rumour I have seen involving a flames player.
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04-11-2021, 05:44 PM
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#11063
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Absolutely correct, but also entirely different players.
I really don't know how anyone is able to confidently predict a player's future progression. Rasmus has been a big disappointment this year, I don't know how else to spin it. IMO it's entirely still unknown at this point whether he lives up to his contract or exceeds it.
As it relates to Brodie, I really think many of us are now seeing just how important he was to this team and unfortunately losing him for nothing has hurt. I was hoping Valimaki could grow into that role but not happening yet.
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Have a look at Gio at age 24. Have a look at the other D from Andersson’s draft - there’s only 6 to play more games, and only 5 more have more points. He’s going to be good value at that contract IMO. He already is making a pretty standard wage for his level of production.
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04-11-2021, 05:56 PM
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#11064
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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Valimaki has been the most disappointing defenseman to me, I know he’s coming off a big time injury. But you can’t tell me Rasmus has been worse than Jusso. I think he will bounce back but he doesn’t look at all like he looked before the injury.
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04-11-2021, 06:04 PM
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#11065
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 8sPOT
Valimaki has been the most disappointing defenseman to me, I know he’s coming off a big time injury. But you can’t tell me Rasmus has been worse than Jusso. I think he will bounce back but he doesn’t look at all like he looked before the injury.
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Again - age and experience. 22 is incredibly young for a D. Gio played a half year at that age. Check out other 22 year old D in the league. He’s not Makar or Heiskenan. Other than that there’s maybe 3 guys with more points and they almost all got into the league a year ahead of him because of the injury.
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04-11-2021, 09:25 PM
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#11066
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Franchise Player
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Portzline speculating Laine might be traded tomorrow. Interesting.
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04-11-2021, 09:34 PM
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#11067
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Portzline speculating Laine might be traded tomorrow. Interesting.
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Crazy they would absolutely be selling low and not get anything near the quality of Dubois.
Could the Jsckets go for an Eichel trade?
Laine+2 of their recently acquired 1sts?
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04-11-2021, 09:37 PM
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#11068
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Powerplay Quarterback
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We probably see both Ryan and Simon gone tomorrow.
Ryan with retention should bring back a third and maybe a 7th for Simon.
Doubt we move anyone else.
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04-11-2021, 09:41 PM
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#11069
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Crazy they would absolutely be selling low and not get anything near the quality of Dubois.
Could the Jsckets go for an Eichel trade?
Laine+2 of their recently acquired 1sts?
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Laine has looked bad. I think Monahan is a fair swap at this point. if they trade him this quick they get poor value for sure.
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04-11-2021, 09:42 PM
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#11070
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Watch Florida snag Laine. Or Carolina.
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04-11-2021, 09:44 PM
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#11071
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Watch Florida snag Laine. Or Carolina.
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Could see that for sure. Do they have any decent expendable centers.
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04-11-2021, 09:54 PM
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#11072
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Johnny for laine + slight add who says no
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04-11-2021, 09:56 PM
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#11073
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Johnny for laine + slight add who says no
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Columbus cause they need someone signed to a long term contract lol.
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04-11-2021, 09:59 PM
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#11074
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Johnny for laine + slight add who says no
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That is the type of retool trade the Flames would love to make as they get a player 5 years younger and the same age and Tkachuk. Not sure Laine fits with Sutter though and he is pouty so not sure it would be a fit. I do think the Flames jump at the deal.
Makes absolutely no sense for the Jackets and they would be better off chasing a package of futures.
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04-11-2021, 10:01 PM
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#11075
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Oh Johnny drives me nuts lolligagging around. I'd hate Laine. But, a pure AF Sniper? Help him mature and bang, we got something. And Monny turning into somewhat of a playmaker lately could be a new dynamic duo with him.
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04-11-2021, 10:30 PM
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#11076
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
That is the type of retool trade the Flames would love to make as they get a player 5 years younger and the same age and Tkachuk. Not sure Laine fits with Sutter though and he is pouty so not sure it would be a fit. I do think the Flames jump at the deal.
Makes absolutely no sense for the Jackets and they would be better off chasing a package of futures.
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I think Sutter would like his size and slightly better wheels. And his big RH shot. He’d hate his work within, but is it way off of Gaudreau’s?
He’s an RFA at the end if this year, but with arb rights. Treliving likes RFAs but not ones with arb methinks.
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04-11-2021, 10:39 PM
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#11077
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Crazy they would absolutely be selling low and not get anything near the quality of Dubois.
Could the Jsckets go for an Eichel trade?
Laine+2 of their recently acquired 1sts?
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Roslovic has been really good for them....28 points in 35 games
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04-11-2021, 10:41 PM
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#11078
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Franchise Player
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Brian Lawton bringing some Flames noise?
https://twitter.com/user/status/1381466419787919360
I shall now go to sleep dreaming of Jack! Jack! Jack! Jack!
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04-11-2021, 10:43 PM
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#11079
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Oooooo, Lawton spills beans in a bad way. I.e he's a babbling lunatic. I think he got burned hard the last couple.of years on insiderrrrr info.
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04-11-2021, 10:46 PM
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#11080
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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When I watch Lawton on TV, he looks like there's something missing upstairs. Wouldnt trust anything he says.
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