05-23-2018, 05:12 PM
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#141
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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05-23-2018, 11:14 PM
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#142
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
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Isn't Evander Kane at $7M enough NTC?
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05-24-2018, 04:36 AM
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#143
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Amsterdam
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Split98
Isn't Evander Kane at $7M enough NTC?
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Yep, the term and AAV are a NTC in themselves. This will go down as one of the worst contracts in the history of planet earth.
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05-24-2018, 05:48 AM
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#144
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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The Sharks didn't really have a choice on this one and had plenty of cap room to make it happen. Kane turned them from a playoff bubble team to a contender.
As a Flames fan Kane would fill a massive hole on the team however am happy the 1st rounder was spent on Hamonic considering the contract differences.
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05-24-2018, 06:51 AM
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#145
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FireGilbert
The Sharks didn't really have a choice on this one and had plenty of cap room to make it happen. Kane turned them from a playoff bubble team to a contender.
As a Flames fan Kane would fill a massive hole on the team however am happy the 1st rounder was spent on Hamonic considering the contract differences.
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They are still a bubble team. It's not a great overall roster and they got handled by the Knights. I give a lot of credit to DeBoer for getting them to play better than the sum of their parts but this team isn't nearly as talented as past Sharks teams. I can see them making the playoffs next season but I wouldn't be surprised if they had a down season and missed the playoffs as well.
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05-24-2018, 07:14 AM
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#146
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
They are still a bubble team. It's not a great overall roster and they got handled by the Knights. I give a lot of credit to DeBoer for getting them to play better than the sum of their parts but this team isn't nearly as talented as past Sharks teams. I can see them making the playoffs next season but I wouldn't be surprised if they had a down season and missed the playoffs as well.
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I think it's an exaggeration that they got handled by Vegas.
I watched most of the games and other than the opening game, it can be argued that they may have outplayed the Knights and Fleury was the star of the show.
But I agree that the Sharks are, like most teams in he NHL, a bubble team that could or could not make the playoffs.
The margins today are juts that thin.
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05-24-2018, 08:49 AM
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#147
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
I think it's an exaggeration that they got handled by Vegas.
I watched most of the games and other than the opening game, it can be argued that they may have outplayed the Knights and Fleury was the star of the show.
But I agree that the Sharks are, like most teams in he NHL, a bubble team that could or could not make the playoffs.
The margins today are juts that thin.
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I have to give the California teams credit as they have all been good for a long time and seem to be hanging in their despite aging rosters even if they are all treading water at this stage. At the same time it's probably an indictment of how poor the progress of the Flames, Oilers, Canucks, and Coyotes has been as it appears none of them have been able to take that next step ad challenge these teams on an annual basis. The end is probably still coming for these teams though as the Knights don't appear they will go away and maybe one day one of the Alberta teams will be good.
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05-24-2018, 08:53 AM
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#148
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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05-24-2018, 09:57 AM
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#149
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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I feel like SJ felt they needed to do this, with Thornton, Couture and Pavelski all aging and due to hit UFA, but in the same stroke, if the 3 guys above chose not to re-sign, that could be a major blow to that "strong room". I wonder if it's going to become the beginning of the end to an era in SJ.
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05-24-2018, 10:00 AM
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#150
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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per LeBrun it is a modified NTC where Kane lists 3 teams he is willing to go to
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05-24-2018, 10:01 AM
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#151
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Franchise Player
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Trade a first round pick to Buffalo in order to pay Evander Kane 7 million bucks for 7 years, or trade a first round pick to Montreal in order to pay Max Pacioretty 4.5 million bucks for one year?
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05-24-2018, 10:04 AM
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#152
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
per LeBrun it is a modified NTC where Kane lists 3 teams he is willing to go to
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Winnipeg
Buffalo
Team Kane wants to go to.
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05-24-2018, 10:18 AM
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#153
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeyman
Winnipeg
Buffalo
Team Kane wants to go to.
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So true....SJ is getting themselves in to a pickle here.
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05-24-2018, 10:30 AM
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#154
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Franchise Player
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Jeez.
That's a lot of scratch and term for a guy that is essentially a 50 point player, who hasn't been all that durable, and is rumored to be bad in the room.
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05-24-2018, 10:45 AM
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#155
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addition by subtraction
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
I think that chart is a little shortsighted. Yes they tend to score more points early to mid 20s, but I think the decline is also due to a player becoming a more complete hockey player. Call it the Yzerman effect. At some point they realize it isn't all about the points...unless you are McDavid.
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Yeah, but hasn't the justification for the contract from many in this thread that he will actually surpass his career highs???
Even if he develops a more complete game, his age still indicates he will be declining from his peak years of ~40-50 points per year? So now a 30 point a year guy is worth 7m? The Brouwer comps aren't as laughable as a lot of you guys think. (and that's coming from a guy who has no skin in the game. I'm not a flames fan, so I have no rose colored glasses of any kind.)
Sidenote, here is a photo of Brouwers shoulder when he was in Rockford; this was the start of the 08-09 campaign for the qc flames.
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05-24-2018, 10:47 AM
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#156
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First Line Centre
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Enjoy that one San Jose.
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05-24-2018, 10:59 AM
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#157
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Jah Chalgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
Lol? He was traded a week after this:
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Just saw the story behind this photo.
It sounds like Winnipeg media spun the context around it.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nh...223223052.html
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05-24-2018, 03:27 PM
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#158
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Franchise Player
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Yikes you'd think a NTC would get you a discount
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05-24-2018, 03:59 PM
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#159
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Franchise Player
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Awesome, the return on that trade looks excellent now!
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05-24-2018, 04:05 PM
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#160
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: 202-19 (4) 216-11(3)
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It's a good deal all around. I feel the California teams could all take a step back next year and miss the playoffs. This will help keep SJ in the playoffs. Maybe slightly overpaid, but not drastically.
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