11-18-2014, 06:43 PM
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#401
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I'm watching. Just terrible buildup play from the vets through the midfield (Hutchinson looks okay) Thankfully 3 of them won't be around much longer
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11-18-2014, 07:52 PM
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#402
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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This is painful.
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11-18-2014, 08:01 PM
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#403
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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Mercifully, the final whistle has been blown. Very ugly for both sides.
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11-18-2014, 08:07 PM
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#404
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Well, we didn't lose in Central America. If we had done that in 2012 we would've made the Hex. Ugly ugly performance but the result is there. Usually it is the other way around with this team.
First 65 minutes were absolutely dreadful to watch, but we at least created a little bit going forward once Osorio and Teibert came on. The kids outplayed the vets by far, with the exception of Henry, who was terrible. I think the Henry at RB experiment is done, and Floro must have agreed because he moved Henry to CB late in the game.
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11-19-2014, 10:38 AM
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#405
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Mckenzie Towne
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Henry was an absolute turnover machine. Very slow to make decisions.
So glad there was a Flames game on, otherwise I probably would have suffered through the rest of that game.
On a side note, I can't believe how hot it was at night time with the humidity. Players were absolutely drenched, which I'm sure had something to do with the quality. I know that I struggle playing in the heat, and that's only in Calgary summers...
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11-19-2014, 10:45 AM
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#406
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shermanator
Well, we didn't lose in Central America. If we had done that in 2012 we would've made the Hex. Ugly ugly performance but the result is there. Usually it is the other way around with this team.
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That's the silver lining, and I should be more positive. Slugging out an ugly draw in the humidity in places like Panama is actually what this team needs to do more of in qualifying. Better than losing. You're absolutely right.
Canada could do with more of these type of friendlies to learn the conditions, etc.
But it was still one of the least entertaining matches I have seen in a number of years!
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11-19-2014, 10:12 PM
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#407
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#1 Goaltender
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Well the Concacaf World Cup Qualifying cycle format is set:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/canad...ld-cup-russia/
Looks OK for Canada, we got seeded 9th based on Concacaf's decision to use August 2014 rankings (got real lucky there, concacaf must spin a wheel or something).
First two rounds could be either total Caribbean cakewalks or maybe one low hurdle in Central America in Guatemala or El Salvador if they get unlucky... they should still beat those teams pretty easily.
Semis draw is going to be huge. Could get a group of death with the USA, Honduras and Jamaica or a manageable one with Costa Rica, Trinidad and Aruba.
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12-17-2014, 11:03 AM
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#409
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by shermanator
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Hopefully at least one of these will be televised, but I'm not holding my breath.
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12-17-2014, 01:27 PM
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#410
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#1 Goaltender
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I was really hoping that the U-20 world cup qualifying tournament would be on tv in January that is going to be a great tournament to watch, Canada has some pretty good prospects in this group. No word on tv yet though, sometimes the CSA webcasts the games if they're not on tv.
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12-22-2014, 09:36 AM
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#411
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Marshmallow Maiden
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Calgary
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Luke Wileman @lukewileman
TSN has confirmed Canadian defender Doneil Henry has been successful getting a work permit and can now compete a move to West Ham in January.
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12-24-2014, 08:35 PM
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#412
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mango
TSN has confirmed Canadian defender Doneil Henry has been successful getting a work permit and can now compete a move to West Ham in January.
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Awesome news. Didn't people in Toronto feel he wasn't good enough for TFC?
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12-25-2014, 11:12 AM
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#413
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Franchise Player
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Yup, people tended to notice Henry's high profile mistakes (handballs, penalties from challenges in the box) and ignore his quality play.
He's very raw, but many folks think he has the potential to be one of the best defenders Canada has ever produced. IMO he and Edgar will be our CB pairing for the next 2 world cup cycles.
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12-29-2014, 08:22 PM
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#414
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uzbekistan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shermanator
Yup, people tended to notice Henry's high profile mistakes (handballs, penalties from challenges in the box) and ignore his quality play.
He's very raw, but many folks think he has the potential to be one of the best defenders Canada has ever produced. IMO he and Edgar will be our CB pairing for the next 2 world cup cycles.
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The problem I have with many Henry loyalists is that they think just because he has potential, that means he's a great player today. I wouldn't have rated Henry as very good or a good mls CB last year. He just has lots of potential. Harsh, but true.
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12-31-2014, 10:59 AM
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#415
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Franchise Player
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That's a fair point, and I would agree that on average, Henry was simply an average CB in MLS. It is still just potential at this point, but for potential to be realized there needs to be an opportunity for Henry to play. I think he showed more consistency in 2014 compared to years past, although the glaring mistakes were still there. IMO he wouldn't have had a chance to work through the consistency issues being stapled to the bench for another rookie CB, who made the same mistakes.
21 years old, 106 professional and international caps, and a transfer to a Premier League team in a Champions League spot shows there is someone out there who knows more about the game than myself willing to develop him.
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01-05-2015, 10:47 AM
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#416
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My face is a bum!
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I think Henry has a lot going for him, he is a great tackler, he is getting better at being physical without crossing the line (red cards will drop off IMO), he's a power house in the air and inside both boxes on set pieces.
What he lacks though… oh boy does he lack. The decision making defensively is coming along, but with the ball it's awful. He is a terrible passer, and very indecisive and tentative playing the ball out of the back. I don't get why Floro plays him as a FB unless it's to try and develop those skills. If he could even get half competent with the ball I think he could turn into a great player. He's shown no real big signs of improvement there yet however.
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01-05-2015, 12:23 PM
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#418
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#1 Goaltender
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Also, Rangers in Scotland have refused to release Fraser Aird for the tournament but Canada has requested him for the final 3 games as a compromise. No word yet. Him and Petrasso on the wings with Larin and Hamilton up front.... Tommy likey.
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01-05-2015, 12:40 PM
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#419
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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Wait - 6 Whitecaps products on the U-20 roster? Aren't they the anti-Canadian team because they don't sign Canadians?
Sarcasm aside, it is nice to see that the focus on development via the academy programs they have set up is starting pay off. I'd much rather see Canadian MLS clubs developing young Canadians rather than signing already-established Canadians for a runaround purely on the basis of their citizenship.
I really do believe that Canadian soccer will be better off in the long run if we don't worry about how many Chileans are on the Whitecaps right now, and instead focus on making young Canadians good enough to crack the lineup on their own. And more importantly, cracking the lineup of other clubs abroad.
Edit: Actually - it's 9 Whitecaps residency products. Wirth, Serban, and Comsia are playing in college or elsewhere. Wow.
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01-05-2015, 12:52 PM
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#420
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Calgary
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^ And, perhaps most importantly and perhaps the trickiest part: making sure that those "Canadians" who are developed don't bugger off to play for England, the Netherlands, Chile, or Jamaica.
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