Well since there's a Coachella thread I figured I'd make one for EDC as I believe there are a few people on here who are into EDM.
For those of you that don't know what EDC is... here's a little taster:
This years line up so far...
What do you guys think about the lineup? To be honest, I'm a little disappointed. There's still a lot of big names missing. It's definitely weaker then Ultra was this year which is kind of a bummer. I'm still unbelievably stoked to go and I can't wait to see a lot of those acts.
The 21 year-old in me is saying "Tits, drugs, booze, Vegas! FANTASTIC!" The 26 year-old me in me is saying "God damn kids and their crappy electronic music."
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The 21 year-old in me is saying "Tits, drugs, booze, Vegas! FANTASTIC!" The 26 year-old me in me is saying "God damn kids and their crappy electronic music."
So did it hurt when you started to grow a vagina in that time frame?
The 21 year-old in me is saying "Tits, drugs, booze, Vegas! FANTASTIC!" The 26 year-old me in me is saying "God damn kids and their crappy electronic music."
The any-year-old in me is saying "Vegas heat in the dead of summer at an outdoor concert? Fata no".
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Disappointed is a strong word. The only thing I'm really truely choked about is Alesso not being in the lineup. He was by far the person I wanted to see the most. His set at Ultra still gives me shivers.
Now that he's not there, Hardwell is definitely tops on my list.
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The any-year-old in me is saying "Vegas heat in the dead of summer at an outdoor concert? Fata no".
It's from dusk until dawn (I think it's 6 pm-6 am). Literally an all night affair so the heat shouldn't be too bad. It's also at the race track which is closer to the desert (it's right on the edge if I remember correctly) so it's a lot cooler than the strip.
I just hope wind isn't an issue again like last year. They moved it to a different weekend because of that.
I love that it's all night. So much better then getting ****ed up and looking at your watch and seeing that it's 3 pm. Party at night, sleep all day, rinse, repeat.
It's from dusk until dawn (I think it's 6 pm-6 am). Literally an all night affair so the heat shouldn't be too bad. It's also at the race track which is closer to the desert (it's right on the edge if I remember correctly) so it's a lot cooler than the strip.
Yeah, was just about to say I've been on the strip in the wee hours of the morning and it still cooks.
So did it hurt when you started to grow a vagina in that time frame?
The one thing I've noticed as I've gotten older is that I don't have to spend nearly as much money and time on stuff I don't really like when I want to get drunk and/or laid. It's been liberating.
This still looks like it'd be a good time if I was already planning on being in Vegas the same weekend and someone scored me tickets. I just can't see myself forking out the cash for it.
For me it's just too much EDM. I love me some EDM, especially live, but I couldn't handle a full weekend even with the mass variation in styles. I like that I can go to something like Lolla or Made in America and catch a Bassnectar set right after a Miike Snow set, the diversity keeps me going. That said, I'll probably try to catch a day of Electric Zoo this year and would likely do the whole weekend if it didn't conflict with Made.
This is just my opinion, but those large massive edm festivals in America are the worst thing to happen to EDM in years. After witnessing how UMF has turned out the last couple years (all underage candy kids, irresponsible drug use, jailbait everwhere), I just don't have it in me anymore to party at these huge american dance festivals anymore. I still love the music and dj everyday, but this ''confetti vip'' as some call it, has totally ruined the party scene for me.
I go to these events for the music and the skill of the djs. Now it has become about young kids wanting to be ''seen'' and dancing to the crappiest of music (SHM prerecorded sets, Avicci, etc). Pump some mainstream dance tracks and these kids act like its the greatest thing they have ever heard. The vibe from when I first went to Ultra 7 years ago vs now is completely different. I've even heard from other friends who have gone to EDC in the past at just how different it is now.
I'm going to Sensation in Toronto next month, which will have a much more mature, underground euro vibe to it then events like EDC and UMF have now and I'm reaaaaalllly looking forward to it more so then I have any other event in the past.
That's just my opinion. I love the music with all my heart, but EDM right now really doesn't know what direction it's headed to. Unfortunately, it seems to be headed in that "confetti vip, hands in the air" direction, in America at least. Don't get me wrong, I love that the scene is getting the exposure it deserves on this continent finally. But as I'm sure as Polak knows, its got a long ways to go before it even comes close to having the vibe it has over in Europe.
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This is just my opinion, but those large massive edm festivals in America are the worst thing to happen to EDM in years. After witnessing how UMF has turned out the last couple years (all underage candy kids, irresponsible drug use, jailbait everwhere), I just don't have it in me anymore to party at these huge american dance festivals anymore. I still love the music and dj everyday, but this ''confetti vip'' as some call it, has totally ruined the party scene for me.
I go to these events for the music and the skill of the djs. Now it has become about young kids wanting to be ''seen'' and dancing to the crappiest of music (SHM prerecorded sets, Avicci, etc). Pump some mainstream dance tracks and these kids act like its the greatest thing they have ever heard. The vibe from when I first went to Ultra 7 years ago vs now is completely different. I've even heard from other friends who have gone to EDC in the past at just how different it is now.
I'm going to Sensation in Toronto next month, which will have a much more mature, underground euro vibe to it then events like EDC and UMF have now and I'm reaaaaalllly looking forward to it more so then I have any other event in the past.
That's just my opinion. I love the music with all my heart, but EDM right now really doesn't know what direction it's headed to. Unfortunately, it seems to be headed in that "confetti vip, hands in the air" direction, in America at least. Don't get me wrong, I love that the scene is getting the exposure it deserves on this continent finally. But as I'm sure as Polak knows, its got a long ways to go before it even comes close to having the vibe it has over in Europe.
This is a great post that I totally agree with. For me I really started to notice it back when I was at edc in 2010. It was still in LA at USC stadium. I feel as though that show/weekend was the tipping point, or at least that summer was.
The music is still great, however there just seems to be a ridiculous amount of trust fund dbag kids ruining the shows now a days
Then again, I'm getting rally old and it might just be my age coming through....
This is a great post that I totally agree with. For me I really started to notice it back when I was at edc in 2010. It was still in LA at USC stadium. I feel as though that show/weekend was the tipping point, or at least that summer was.
The music is still great, however there just seems to be a ridiculous amount of trust fund dbag kids ruining the shows now a days
Then again, I'm getting rally old and it might just be my age coming through....
For me it started when the SHM started touring and fans started flocking to them and they self-anointed themselves as the party kings. Watch their documentary if you want to see a bunch of ######s who are in it solely for the money and don't give a rats ass about the fans. It will change your entire view on how some of these ''superstar djs'' present themselves. It's funny because individually (Angello, Ingrosso, Axwell) they are awesome to watch. But combine them together and it's like watching a bunch of spoiled rich kids act like ######s and its even sadder that people flock to them.
I read an article a while ago about how Erick Morrillo's contract at Pacha in Ibiza wasn't renewed because of the outrageous prices he demanded. While I dont' have an issue with djs making as much money as possible, what saddens me is that money was never the most important thing about EDM, the music was. And that's what seperated it from rock/hip hop acts and kept it more underground. Most djs are happy to spin at a small, underground party with a couple hundred people and it ends up being the best night ever. Now, you get djs who don't tour at certain cities because clubs don't want to pay their outrageous prices.
I'm glad those owners stood up for what they believe in. To me, EDM and dj'ing will always be about the music and getting the chance to see djs who are talented and sick behind the decks. When was the last time you went to a dj show and people around you mentioned how awesome the djs skills were, or how good that mix was? Hell when was the last time you even heard a dj scratch? I can honestly say that Judge Jules is the last dj that I saw in calgary who actually scratched and did actual dj ''tricks'' during a show. People go now to see/hear the productions they create, not for their dj'ing skills. Even some of the top guys (Gareth Emery, Avicci, Afrojack) suck at mixing, but its all about their own productions now that make the crowd go wild. Just by looking at the lineup I know that A-trax and Umek will be the most talented guys there. Umek regularly spins with 4 decks at one which takes a lot of skill to pull of properly, and A-trax plays a lot like an old school dj would; lots of scratching, looping and crazy things you won't hear any other djs do.
EDC this year looks like a great lineup. But after being disappointed by UMF this year, I think I'm going to avoid large American festivals for the next while.
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For me it started when the SHM started touring and fans started flocking to them and they self-anointed themselves as the party kings. Watch their documentary if you want to see a bunch of ######s who are in it solely for the money and don't give a rats ass about the fans. It will change your entire view on how some of these ''superstar djs'' present themselves. It's funny because individually (Angello, Ingrosso, Axwell) they are awesome to watch. But combine them together and it's like watching a bunch of spoiled rich kids act like ######s and its even sadder that people flock to them.
I read an article a while ago about how Erick Morrillo's contract at Pacha in Ibiza wasn't renewed because of the outrageous prices he demanded. While I dont' have an issue with djs making as much money as possible, what saddens me is that money was never the most important thing about EDM, the music was. And that's what seperated it from rock/hip hop acts and kept it more underground. Most djs are happy to spin at a small, underground party with a couple hundred people and it ends up being the best night ever. Now, you get djs who don't tour at certain cities because clubs don't want to pay their outrageous prices.
I'm glad those owners stood up for what they believe in. To me, EDM and dj'ing will always be about the music and getting the chance to see djs who are talented and sick behind the decks. When was the last time you went to a dj show and people around you mentioned how awesome the djs skills were, or how good that mix was? Hell when was the last time you even heard a dj scratch? I can honestly say that Judge Jules is the last dj that I saw in calgary who actually scratched and did actual dj ''tricks'' during a show. People go now to see/hear the productions they create, not for their dj'ing skills. Even some of the top guys (Gareth Emery, Avicci, Afrojack) suck at mixing, but its all about their own productions now that make the crowd go wild. Just by looking at the lineup I know that A-trax and Umek will be the most talented guys there. Umek regularly spins with 4 decks at one which takes a lot of skill to pull of properly, and A-trax plays a lot like an old school dj would; lots of scratching, looping and crazy things you won't hear any other djs do.
EDC this year looks like a great lineup. But after being disappointed by UMF this year, I think I'm going to avoid large American festivals for the next while.
What, making outrageous amounts of money?
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Pacha Ibiza, with a capacity of about 3,000, grossed more than 30 million euros (about $40 million) last summer, compared with 7 million euros in 1999, Mr. Whittle said. Pacha paid some acts more than 100,000 euros (roughly $130,000) a night, he said, but all of those D.J.’s generated three times that amount in revenue for the club.
Don't kid yourselves, the promoters aren't the good guys here. They're changing the model because they don't want to pay the expenses and are banking on people continuing to show up. We'll see if that works out, but I don't buy the 'getting back the Ibiza of the 70's' excuse. This is about the bottom line.
Seeing Swedish House Mafia last year was mental. One of the craziest shows I have ever seen. Personally, I prefer being in a field with 50,000 other people going nuts and watching a massive elaborate show with pyrotechnics/fireworks/lazers/video screens than being in a basement with a couple hundred people watching someone spin records....but that's just me.
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