06-19-2019, 03:00 PM
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#121
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Philly's not going to be able to afford Gaudreau when the time comes because of signings like this. He's probably getting 12-13m the way things are trending.
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06-19-2019, 03:03 PM
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#122
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
Philly's not going to be able to afford Gaudreau when the time comes because of signings like this. He's probably getting 12-13m the way things are trending.
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A good reason to move him out now, for the right deal, of course.
No time like the present.
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06-19-2019, 03:03 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
Philly's not going to be able to afford Gaudreau when the time comes because of signings like this. He's probably getting 12-13m the way things are trending.
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He isn't going anywhere anyhow. Both BT and Conroy constantly crow about him, he will never get to FA.
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06-19-2019, 03:05 PM
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#124
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
He isn't going anywhere anyhow. Both BT and Conroy constantly crow about him, he will never get to FA.
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I don't know if I want 29 year old Gaudreau on a 8x 12.5m...
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06-19-2019, 03:09 PM
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#125
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Brick
A good reason to move him out now, for the right deal, of course.
No time like the present.
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Gaudreau has three years left on an outstanding contract and the Flames were a top team last year. This most definitely is not a good time to trade him.
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06-19-2019, 03:16 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
I don't know if I want 29 year old Gaudreau on a 8x 12.5m...
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Why? Johnny is a special player. Ray Whitney was scoring 77 points at age 39 for the Phoenix Bouw and Arrows. Johnny's better. I envision Gaudreau having a real Gio-esque back half of his career.
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06-19-2019, 04:24 PM
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#127
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
That’s pretty harsh. Patrick is a super young NHLer. The best is likely yet to come and there are reasons he was taken top two. To judge him as a finished product would usually be to make a massive mistake in your analysis.
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I am not a big believer in Patrick being more than a decent 2C which is not a bad thing but not someone who should be guaranteed top minutes or is a sure fire breakout guy. He was hurt all junior and has been pretty bland at the NHL level.
Not saying he is a finished product but Hayes is not holding him back at all
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06-19-2019, 04:51 PM
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#128
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Franchise Player
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Hayes got a full nmc and expansion protection.
What a idiotic contract by Philly. Feels like they were morr willing to overpay to sign rather than accept trading for his rights for nothing.
I'd be shocked if he gets 20 goals this year.
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06-19-2019, 04:55 PM
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#129
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by bubbsy
Hayes got a full nmc and expansion protection.
What a idiotic contract by Philly. Feels like they were morr willing to overpay to sign rather than accept trading for his rights for nothing.
I'd be shocked if he gets 20 goals this year.
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I think that was motivation for sure.
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06-19-2019, 08:41 PM
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#130
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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Thats insane way to much
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06-19-2019, 09:52 PM
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#131
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damn onions
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This may be the worst signing I have ever seen. Ranks close to that hilarious 15 year DiPietro deal way back when (is he still being paid?).
If this is the type of a deal a NHL GM negotiates I can say with full confidence I would be a better GM for Philadelphia. It's almost as if the agent had pictures or something.
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06-19-2019, 09:53 PM
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#132
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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I still can't wrap my head around this deal, wow just wow!
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06-20-2019, 12:22 AM
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#133
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
This may be the worst signing I have ever seen. Ranks close to that hilarious 15 year DiPietro deal way back when (is he still being paid?).
If this is the type of a deal a NHL GM negotiates I can say with full confidence I would be a better GM for Philadelphia. It's almost as if the agent had pictures or something.
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Lol, he's getting $1.5m till 28-29, hope he's putting some away for retirement 
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06-20-2019, 06:42 AM
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#134
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Lol, he's getting $1.5m till 28-29, hope he's putting some away for retirement |
That is an amazing contract. The guy is getting paid millions annually for over two decades for 6 years of playing or being on the roster.
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06-20-2019, 07:07 AM
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#135
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Franchise Player
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I think I figured out how the deal went down.
Owner "Give him 50 million over 8 years".
GM "We aren't allowed signing him to 8 years".
Owner "Then get it done for 7 years" (meaning 6.25 over 7 years)
GM signs him for 50 million over 7 years.
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06-20-2019, 08:54 AM
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#136
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix
Philly's not going to be able to afford Gaudreau when the time comes because of signings like this. He's probably getting 12-13m the way things are trending.
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Paying Hayes a few million more than what many felt he was worth is not going to affect whether Philly can afford Johnny or not.
Premium players will always get paid and teams will always find a way to pay them.
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06-20-2019, 09:07 AM
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#137
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Powerplay Quarterback
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06-20-2019, 11:52 AM
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#138
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Why? Johnny is a special player. Ray Whitney was scoring 77 points at age 39 for the Phoenix Bouw and Arrows. Johnny's better. I envision Gaudreau having a real Gio-esque back half of his career.
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So every player better than Ray Whitney will be scoring plenty at 39 years of age?
Someone forgot to tell Lanny McDonald.
I wouldn't used the outlier to prove the premise.
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06-20-2019, 11:59 AM
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#139
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
I think that was motivation for sure.
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Yep that was an absolute waste of a draft pick. This deal gets him on July 1 for sure.
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06-20-2019, 12:57 PM
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#140
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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With the young players with RFA status starting to command more money, the salary paradigm has to shift because there isn't more money in the system. If the young star player is going to get more money, it's going to come from someone. So with that shift currently in place, a Contract like this is going to become a serious problem.
Guys like Hayes will need to go from being 6 million dollar guys to 4 million dollar guys in order for the Aho, Tkachuck, Marners to go from being 7 million dollar guys to 9 million dollar types.
Unless it's a top end player, going to be hard to carry a player over 30 with a salary North of 4 million.
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