06-16-2019, 05:58 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Originally Posted by Locke
You shut your sinning face!
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It makes a mockery of the Oilers so I don’t see how it’s that bad.
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06-16-2019, 06:17 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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I said it before, I think Eakins is a very good coach. Nobody could win with that tire fire to the North and he has been successful everywhere else. I think this is a good hire by the Ducks.
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06-16-2019, 07:28 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GordonBlue
With the experience he gained since then, he might be ready. Helps he's not going into a disfunctional team as a rookie head coach.
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He's not a rookie head coach, but it's still a dysfunctional team. Getting rid of Perry could help a bit, though.
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06-16-2019, 08:50 PM
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#24
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I said it before, I think Eakins is a very good coach. Nobody could win with that tire fire to the North and he has been successful everywhere else. I think this is a good hire by the Ducks.
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Eakins’s teams in Edmonton were historically bad. He has the worst numbers of their last four coaches, and is tied with Tom Renney and Pat Quinn for the second worst finish in Oilers franchise history.
Dallas Eakins is a bad NHL coach.
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06-16-2019, 09:32 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat
He's not a rookie head coach, but it's still a dysfunctional team. Getting rid of Perry could help a bit, though.
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Where the heck have you been?! Or do I just skip posts and miss the fact that you never stopped posting?
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06-16-2019, 10:26 PM
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#26
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I wanna see Eakins beat the Oilers just to see their fans reactions.
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06-16-2019, 10:28 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 555 Saddledome Rise SE
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I’m torn between “lol Ducks hope this fails, go Flames” and “lol Oilers, go Ducks”.
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06-16-2019, 10:30 PM
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#28
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All I can get
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesforcup
I wanna see Eakins beat the Oilers just to see their fans reactions.
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Everyone beats the Oilers. Everybody. Their fans should be used to it by now.
Other ex-Oilers coaches like Ralph Kruger and Todd McLellan will also beat the Oilers. Because everybody beats the Oilers. Everybody.
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06-16-2019, 10:40 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I think the earlier suckage of Eakins had a lot more to do with the garbage team he had in front of him. I think he will do well with the Ducks.
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06-16-2019, 10:41 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
I think the earlier suckage of Eakins had a lot more to do with the garbage team he had in front of him. I think he will do well with the Ducks.
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Haaaave you seen their roster? They are in 'better than Oilers for reasons' territory.
They've got some players that dont suck. But not many.
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06-16-2019, 10:58 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Haaaave you seen their roster? They are in 'better than Oilers for reasons' territory.
They've got some players that dont suck. But not many.
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The Ducks' season was killed by injuries and a coach that absolutely sucked. I don't think they are going to be a top seed in the Pacific Division, but don't be surprised if they are always in the hunt for a playoff spot with the likes of Gibson in net and Getzlaf still playing pretty well. I think they will always be competing for the #3 or WC1/WC2 spot.
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06-16-2019, 11:16 PM
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#32
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
I think the earlier suckage of Eakins had a lot more to do with the garbage team he had in front of him. I think he will do well with the Ducks.
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Again, Eakins's performance with the Oilers was among the worst in franchise history, and coaches with the SAME ROSTERS managed consistently better finishes. While it is true that Eakins's rosters were terrible, his contemporaries somehow managed too get better results from the same players.
Dallas Eakins is a terrible NHL coach. Terrible.
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06-16-2019, 11:45 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Again, Eakins's performance with the Oilers was among the worst in franchise history, and coaches with the SAME ROSTERS managed consistently better finishes. While it is true that Eakins's rosters were terrible, his contemporaries somehow managed too get better results from the same players.
Dallas Eakins is a terrible NHL coach. Terrible.
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Just as Dubnyk was a terrible goalie, Schultz a terrible defenceman, Hall/Eberle/Maroon/endlesslist a terrible forward.
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06-16-2019, 11:47 PM
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#34
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Sweden
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Again, Eakins's performance with the Oilers was among the worst in franchise history, and coaches with the SAME ROSTERS managed consistently better finishes. While it is true that Eakins's rosters were terrible, his contemporaries somehow managed too get better results from the same players.
Dallas Eakins is a terrible NHL coach. Terrible.
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I would also like to mention that the Oilers 13-14 roster is far from the worst it's ever been. They actually had decent top end talent and also some fairly decent depth players, and it could be argued that on paper, the 18-19 roster for example was even worse than what Eakins had at his disposal.
That said, he did spend his entire tenure with the Oilers trying to force square pegs into round holes, desperately trying to adapt the players into what he thought was a great system, instead of doing what every successful coach does, namely to look for a way to use the players to the strength of their abilities. If he continues being that stubborn, he will likely fail again, but I would think that it's just what he's been working on. If he can adapt his systems to fit the skill set of his roster a bit more he might not be as terrible this time around. He probably won't be great, but at least not terrible.
Last edited by crapshoot; 06-16-2019 at 11:58 PM.
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06-17-2019, 01:13 AM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Again, Eakins's performance with the Oilers was among the worst in franchise history, and coaches with the SAME ROSTERS managed consistently better finishes. While it is true that Eakins's rosters were terrible, his contemporaries somehow managed too get better results from the same players.
Dallas Eakins is a terrible NHL coach. Terrible.
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Yes, but Eakins is also well aware of his previous faults, has been an outstanding AHL coach for Anaheim's AHL affiliate, and will most likely know a lot of those AHL players that get called up. I'm almost 100% positive he can do a better job than RC.
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06-17-2019, 06:47 AM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Eakins was also doing great work with the Marlies and they passed him over as well. If teams across the league really thought he was a great coach he would have been hired a few years ago. The fact that the Ducks waited months to settle on him tells me they in fact settled as this wasn't a case like Treliving where he knew Peters was his guy. Maybe he's learned a few things but he's gone from a bad situation in Edmonton to a bad situation in Anaheim so he's got his work cut out for him.
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06-17-2019, 07:35 AM
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#37
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In the Sin Bin
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I'd say Eakins has a better chance of redeeming himself in Anaheim than Gulutzan ever did in Calgary.
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06-17-2019, 08:18 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Eakins’s teams in Edmonton were historically bad. He has the worst numbers of their last four coaches, and is tied with Tom Renney and Pat Quinn for the second worst finish in Oilers franchise history.
Dallas Eakins is a bad NHL coach.
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We will see. By your logic Pat Quinn was a bad NHL coach.
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06-17-2019, 08:24 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
I'd say Eakins has a better chance of redeeming himself in Anaheim than Gulutzan ever did in Calgary.
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Peters basically took a similar roster that Gulutzan failed to make the playoffs with to top spot in the Conference. Eakins has a much more difficult road ahead of him as that roster really isn't very good. That said Gulutzan IMO is a horrible head coach so Eakins only needs to be bad to be better.
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06-17-2019, 08:27 AM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
We will see. By your logic Pat Quinn was a bad NHL coach.
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Well he was when the Oilers brought him back. That was a mistake for him to accept a job when he was no longer up to the task of being a head coach.
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