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Old 03-14-2019, 10:07 PM   #61
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Stupid ROW tiebreakers. Still... this is a team with a ton of depth. Like their chances even against a team like San Jose, think they could make a series out of it.
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:12 PM   #62
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When the Coyotes win tonight they'll be two points back of being the sixth-best team in the West. So...
I guess Dallas sucks too...Wild Card point totals will be historically low


Not trying to hate, heck I hope they pass Vegas and have been cheering for them to get rid of the Oilers. High 80s/Low 90s teams shouldn't be winning any major awards for coaching/GMing. Guys get fired for those types of seasons all the time, look at the east.
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:15 PM   #63
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still think you're severely underestimating them... they're a top-10 team in the entire NHL in 2019. Playing at a 105-point pace since January 1 and they're only starting to get guys back.

they'll be a tougher out than people think
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:24 PM   #64
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still think you're severely underestimating them... they're a top-10 team in the entire NHL in 2019. Playing at a 105-point pace since January 1 and they're only starting to get guys back.

they'll be a tougher out than people think
how so? most years they wouldn't make the playoffs with their point total...just stating facts. I don't care about arbitrary dates.

I never said they would be an easy out, just easier...
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:26 PM   #65
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how so? most years they wouldn't make the playoffs with their point total...just stating facts. I don't care about arbitrary dates.

I never said they would be an easy out, just easier...
they're still heating up... I don't think they'll coast into the playoffs with 85-88 points, I think they'll easily get into the mid-90s, good for a typical 6-8 seed
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how so? most years they wouldn't make the playoffs with their point total...just stating facts. I don't care about arbitrary dates.

I never said they would be an easy out, just easier...
Such a weak argument. How is the west weak? It痴 just incredibly balanced
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they're still heating up... I don't think they'll coast into the playoffs with 85-88 points, I think they'll easily get into the mid-90s, good for a typical 6-8 seed
They have to go 10-2 to get to 95 points...96 is Snek cutoff
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They have to go 10-2 to get to 95 points...96 is Snek cutoff
well they'll get one of those wins tonight, so 9-2

I'll make an avatar bet with you that the Coyotes hit at least 93 points
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well they'll get one of those wins tonight, so 9-2

I'll make an avatar bet with you that the Coyotes hit at least 93 points
93 isn't mid 90s and they won't "easily" be 9-2

possible?? I guess
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Such a weak argument. How is the west weak? It’s just incredibly balanced
Is this a serious post? because every single hockey media outlet and 99% of fans agree not to mention historical data shows the bottom end of the west is weak this season
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Is this a serious post? because every single hockey media outlet and 99% of fans agree not to mention historical data shows the bottom end of the west is weak this season
this doesn't make a lot of sense. the conferences are pretty even when it comes to their respective bottom-ends

31. Ottawa (East)
30. Detroit (East)
29. LA (West)
28. New Jersey (East)
27. Anaheim (West)

That's 3 out of 5 teams in the bottom-5 from the East.

26. Vancouver (West)
25. NY Rangers (East)
24. Buffalo (East)
23. Edmonton (West)
22. Chicago (West)

It's a 5/5 East/West split in the bottom-10. What disparity at the bottom-ends are you talking about?
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Is this a serious post? because every single hockey media outlet and 99% of fans agree not to mention historical data shows the bottom end of the west is weak this season
Post some spreadsheets and charts please
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this doesn't make a lot of sense. the conferences are pretty even when it comes to their respective bottom-ends

31. Ottawa (East)
30. Detroit (East)
29. LA (West)
28. New Jersey (East)
27. Anaheim (West)

That's 3 out of 5 teams in the bottom-5 from the East.

26. Vancouver (West)
25. NY Rangers (East)
24. Buffalo (East)
23. Edmonton (West)
22. Chicago (West)

It's a 5/5 East/West split in the bottom-10. What disparity at the bottom-ends are you talking about?
I'm talking about the Wild Card races...unless you are living under a rock the wild card race in the west has been a ####ing joke.

Most years 93 (very optimistic) won't get you in.

WC2 is likely to be high 80s low 90s in the West
WC2 will be much higher in the East
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I mean, you said the bottom-end.

Yeah, the wild-card races are weaker than expected. But look at it from the teams on paper... did anyone expect Arizona to be in the same conversation with Vegas and St. Louis coming into this season? Now they're easily within striking distance of both those teams with all four of their lines clicking.
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I mean, you said the bottom-end.

Yeah, the wild-card races are weaker than expected. But look at it from the teams on paper... did anyone expect Arizona to be in the same conversation with Vegas and St. Louis coming into this season? Now they're easily within striking distance of both those teams with all four of their lines clicking.
Bottom end of the playoff races...since that is what we are talking about

they are 36-35 with a negative goal differential, sorry if I'm not jumping up and down about how great they are.

The fact they need to basically run the table to get to a respectable point total for a playoff team says it all.

Anyway, good for them...better than the Oilers, Avs, Wild

Some poor team in the East is gonna miss the playoffs and have people moved/fired yet have more points than these world beaters.

They are still below the pace of last years GG Flames, let that sink in
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yeah but they're actually playing with fire deep into March and are getting contributions from up and down the lineup...

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false. these Coyotes are on pace for 89 points. last year's Flames finished with 84
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yeah but they're actually playing with fire deep into March and are getting contributions from up and down the lineup...

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false. these Coyotes are on pace for 89 points. last year's Flames finished with 84
False yourself...I mean the Flames pace last season at this exact point


And yeah on pace for 89 points, good for them for coming on when nobody else did but...sorry If I'm not about to crown their asses.

No easy outs in the playoffs but, they are the team everyone wants to play.

Who else?
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Ok, but these Coyotes and last year's Flames are on completely opposite trajectories. Last year's Flames started reasonably well and fell off a cliff as the season went on. These Coyotes started pretty poorly and have been one of the league's best teams of late. Lots more reason to be optimistic about the end of the Coyotes' season this year than there was to be excited for the last months of Gulutzan's tenure here.
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They are still below the pace of last years GG Flames, let that sink in
The old 71 game point pace, the universal measure of the quality of a team.

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Wow, I let that sink in and then I realized it was just laughably incorrect

Last years GG Flames had 84 points

Coyotes pace this year 89 points.
dear lord...AT THIS POINT

Flames were on pace for 90 points this time last season

Yotes are almost certainly going to have a point total that would have missed the playoffs last season. They are an average team

36 Wins and 35 Losses -4 goal differential
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