[Trade] Flames acquire Mike Smith (25% retained) for Chad Johnson, Brandon Hickey, & cond 3rd

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by codynw

Honestly, #### this stupid franchise.

How is Smith/Johnson better than what they went with last year?

It could be, the team has 2 very solid goalie prospects that management is very high on, signing a long term goalie would've bad for their development. Can't really see how someone thinks this isn't a decent trade. Options were limited and the flames didn't give up their first. It's all good

[RichKlit]

Originally Posted by codynw

Honestly, #### this stupid franchise.

How is Smith/Johnson better than what they went with last year?

You should take a break for a little bit.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Terrible. Trading for a 35 year old goalie?

What were you hoping for in regards to solving our goaltending situation?

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by codynw

Honestly, #### this stupid franchise.

How is Smith/Johnson better than what they went with last year?

If you're so smart, why don't you suggest a better (and actually *possible*, as opposed to a wonderfully favourable to only the Flames) solution?

Much better than whining.

CP is starting to sound like a nursery school. Really.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by getbak

What would suck is if Gillies/Rittich/Parsons steal the starter's job partway through the season and that's the reason the Flames make the playoffs and have to give up a second rounder.

If one of those three goalies is so good that they are the starter on a playoff bound Flames team, and are the reason the Flames make the playoffs, that's okay. Sure it would be nice to have the 2nd round pick, but to have one of our goalies perform that well at a young age, is a problem every team would take. If the Flames tabbed one of those guys as the starter now, and missed the playoffs, I'm guessing the vast majority of people would trade a future 2nd round pick in order to make the playoffs.

I'm not a Smith fan by any stretch, but your view is fairly pessimistic. It's not on Par's level of hysteria, but still looking at the worst case of a good scenario.

[SuperMatt18]

My guess is they try to grab Grubauer or Pickard from Vegas tomorrow as well.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Steve Mason is far less proven as a consistent starter than Smith. I'd easily take Smith over Mason

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Yeah but Elliott sucked too

Smith's low danger, high danger and medium danger save %'s last season were ALL above the league average.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

I don't want to overreact before a game is played. Let's see how it all turns out.

My gut doesn't like this though. I don't feel Smith can help us go deep in the playoffs and I'm uncomfortable giving up a second, even though I agree it's a fair price.

Won't change my mind about the team. I still think they're trending the right way.

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[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

What were you hoping for in regards to solving our goaltending situation?

Schneider for Brouwer. Duh

[sureLoss]

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
now
Interesting Smith splits:

Career vs. Edm: 15-3-1, 0.924 SV%
Career vs. SJ: 12-8-3, 0.942 SV%
Career vs. LA: 15-8-1, 0.931 SV%

[Par]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

What were you hoping for in regards to solving our goaltending situation?

Honestly I was hoping for Braden Holtby or Carey Price, I even made like a dozen proposals

[iloveicedhockey]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

The 3rd becomes a 2nd if they make the playoffs just great smh.
Treliving better work hard on recouping all these picks we are losing. Just look at what we have going into this draft it is pathetic. Start moving all the not needed bodies for picks Brad.

Who do you suggest has any value at the moment, that we'd be happy to get rid of? Bouma?

Based on average shots per goal (a slightly different way of looking at save percentage I guess) Smith was ahead of Miller, Jones, bishop, mason, Elliott, Fleury, Schneider, hellboy, mrazek and varlamov. Last year stats.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by codynw

Honestly, #### this stupid franchise.

How is Smith/Johnson better than what they went with last year?

Because Elliott was a bad goalie propped up by a good team.

Smith was a good goalie dragged down by a bad team.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Steve Mason is far less proven as a consistent starter than Smith. I'd easily take Smith over Mason

Mason also likely costs more, both in term and $

[Jordan!]

Smith is a great team guy but one more knee injury away from his career ending. I definitely think he'll regress and be hated more than Roman Turek next season.

[JJolg]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
now
Interesting Smith splits:

Career vs. Edm: 15-3-1, 0.924 SV%
Career vs. SJ: 12-8-3, 0.942 SV%
Career vs. LA: 15-8-1, 0.931 SV%

But can he win in Ana?? If so great trade lol

[locsofblu]

I don'the want Johnson back. He was pretty awful the 2nd half of the season. Give Gillis the back up role. And wozers 4.2 million is Smiths cap hit after the trade.

[Zoller]

I have to admit I'm not a huge fan of the deal. We've given up second rounders two years in a row for 2 different goalies. I get that Hickey probably wasn't going to sign here because of our lack of faith in young defenceman, but a second should have been enough for Smith. He has worse numbers than Elliott.

Would have rather had Mason for free.

If Johnson comes back then we are no better than last year and down another 2nd and a prospect. Lateral move and gave us assets in the process. Mason was also a lateral move and wouldn't have had to give up anything.

We'll see how it plays out but as of right now I'm not a fan

[ComixZone]

I'm looking forward to handing out plate after plate of crow as the season goes on.