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Old 11-20-2017, 04:27 PM   #41
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Ah. So that's why Lazar is not playing tonight!
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:28 PM   #42
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I like Kane as a player, but I have no faith he'd actually stick around or stay motivated here. Basically forced his way out of Winnipeg and has been a headache in Buffalo as well up until this year (conveniently, a contract season).

Would hate to part with anything of value just to see him jump ship to LA or New York in July.
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:28 PM   #43
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Acquiring Kane wouldn’t make much sense. Buffalo likely wants a high pick for him and we don’t have that. We already have 2 top lines firing on all cylinders. A rental in Kane wouldn’t make much sense as a 3rd liner as he needs to be around good players to produce. What we do need are bottom 6 forwards who can drive some play rather than be liabilities on a consistent basis.

Could see a Sam for Sam swap as both are teams are running out of patience with their top 2014 picks. Whatever it is, 2 consecutive games is a pretty big deal. Do we know if any Buffalo scouts have been watching us?
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:29 PM   #44
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I like Kane as a player, but I have no faith he'd actually stick around or stay motivated here. Basically forced his way out of Winnipeg and has been a headache in Buffalo as well up until this year (conveniently, a contract season).

Would hate to part with anything of value just to see him jump ship to LA or New York in July.
Kane does make a lot of sense, especially when looking through the goggles of the Pacific division. LA and Anaheim are going to be big battles going down the stretch (and then likely into the playoffs), Kane's speed, physical strength, and ability to play on the PK would all be big benefits...but, yeah - it is likely he'd only be a rental.
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:30 PM   #45
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Kane is still concerning to me, in whether he has matured enough in how he does his public interactions. A distraction like some of his in the past could cripple this season.
With the emphasis that the Flames put on character, I can't see them bringing Kane in.
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Sure that would be the knee jerk reaction but what if this is Bennett's ceiling? Say he doesn't get any better than a 35 point player. Do you still not make that trade? Tough call. Kane is 3x the player Bennett is right now. Do you load up try to make a run and resign him in the off-season?
Yes Kane is the much better player than Bennett at the moment but i'm not trading a 21 year old potential top 6 winger for a UFA with well known attitude problems.
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:31 PM   #47
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Kane is on pace for a career year, in what happens to be a contract year. He will be playing for a raise from his 5.25. Based on his off ice history and questions about being a team guy, I am not sure if I would like to see him here.
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:32 PM   #48
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:32 PM   #49
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Would have to ship out some salary to add Kane. Who would we want to move?
- Brouwer
- Stajan

Buffalo doesn't want these guys without substantial added sweeteners.

Reinhart would be a nice add as we need some more RH players that can play in the top 9 moving forward but who do you move? Do we want to give up on Bennett who has more tools?
Regarding Brouwer and Stajan, try something along the lines of this:

Troy Brouwer ($4.5M) for Matt Moulson ($5M).

Or Matt Stajan ($3.125M) for Matt Moulson (5M).

Those might have a chance of working out.
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:33 PM   #50
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I've always said that as long as your teammates can stand you, I don't really care about "character."

His ex-teammates practically ran him out of Winnipeg. I'd be wary.
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What’s the point of a Sam for Sam trade? Would buffalo have to add? I’d be really disappointed if it was a straight up deal.
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Would anyone consider a Matt S for Matt M swap between Calgary and Buffalo?
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Why would Tree need to scout Johnson?
Yea...good point
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:43 PM   #54
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The only forward I'd want is Okposo but his contract is ridiculous
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:44 PM   #55
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What’s the point of a Sam for Sam trade? Would buffalo have to add? I’d be really disappointed if it was a straight up deal.
Both guys have been pretty disappointing relative to their draft position and could perhaps use a change of scenery to get their mojo back.

If anyone adds it's the Flames, as Reinhart has been the better player in every season.
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What’s the point of a Sam for Sam trade? Would buffalo have to add? I’d be really disappointed if it was a straight up deal.
Flames would have to add. Reinhart has been better every season over Bennet. Reinhart makes less money. Reinhart can actually play center and is a right handed shot. Bennett is looking better, but i can't see him ever being a center.
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:52 PM   #57
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Kane is UFA after this year so he wouldn't be crazy expensive. And there's probably no one in the history of the league more motivated by a contract year.

I'd happily take him for the season then let him go to FA.
But at what cost
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Old 11-20-2017, 04:53 PM   #58
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Lol Treliving is only there because Chia is there and we all know Treliving scoops up whoever Chia wants everytime.
I'm pretty sure Trevling is just driving up the price on whatever Chirelli is working on. Basically the Russel deal where Chirelli bids against himself.
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Maybe Eichel wants out
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Flames would have to add. Reinhart has been better every season over Bennet. Reinhart makes less money. Reinhart can actually play center and is a right handed shot. Bennett is looking better, but i can't see him ever being a center.
Neither team is interested in the Sam they have, both want the Sam they could be; so the value would be the belief you could get more out of your Sam than the other guy could.

I'd do it; but I'm also good with giving Bennett Sam Backlund-like development time.
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