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Old 11-21-2017, 08:38 AM   #181
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Kane - is he really the guy you want in the room? only moment I was a fan of was when he KO'd Cooke.

Reinhart - seriously what is the appeal here? A big soft young winger?

There is almost nothing I'd be interested int he Flames pulling from Buffalo... maybe outside ROR (with cap retained).
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Old 11-21-2017, 08:42 AM   #182
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Each post about Eichel is getting more absurd.

No the "price" for Eichel is not Brodie, try again.
First, it's not Brodie. It's Brodie++.

Secondly, Brodie is a legitimate top pairing defenceman who is just entering his prime years and is on a relatively cheap contract for three more years. That makes him a very, very valuable asset.

While it's highly unlikely they trade him, it's not an unimaginable scenario. I cannot imagine the Sabres are too happy with his play on the ice (considering his extension) or his comments in the media.


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Old 11-21-2017, 08:46 AM   #183
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I don’t know if that is enough to add Reinhart to the deal.

Fun to talk about Eichel but I can’t see the Sabres moving on from a guy before the $80M extension for him kicks in. The only reason it carries a little weight is the fact it seems Eichel was key in getting Bylsma fired and he is not having a great season and seems disgruntled.

If they are looking at D I would assume Hamilton would be the target.

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To Flames: Eichel, Kane
To Sabres: Backlund, Bennett, Hamilton brothers, + any prospect in the system?
Yeah, it's fun to talk about. Like I said, it's highly, highly unlikely they move him but it is not a situation where I cannot see them trading him like Matthews in TO or McDavid up north.

Unlikely but plausible.

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Old 11-21-2017, 08:46 AM   #184
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Price for Eichel would be Gaudreau + Monahan haha.

There's zero chance they trade him.
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Old 11-21-2017, 08:47 AM   #185
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Each post about Eichel is getting more absurd.

No the "price" for Eichel is not Brodie, try again.
Agreed on the first statement. Your second is your typical gross misrepresentation. The only person who has made a suggestion of the price for Eichel being Brodie is you. As noted, the proposals all include Brodie as a piece, but not remotely close to the whole.



That said, the Sabres just turfed their GM because Eichel wanted it. They aren't going to change their course again and move him. He's not going anywhere. Given how desperately the Sabres need to shake things up, I'd imagine anyone else off that roster is available though.
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Old 11-21-2017, 08:54 AM   #186
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Price for Eichel would be Gaudreau + Monahan haha.

There's zero chance they trade him.
It really wouldn't be. Gaudreau is a top 10 player in the league and Monahan is a pure goal scoring #1 C

Eichel ++ for both of them
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No the "price" for Eichel is not Brodie, try again.
I don't know any team that would let their franchise player go within 10-15 years service on the team unless if another franchise player goes the other way. Bennett doesn't even come close to a franchise player. I'd be laughing if he was traded straight up for Kane - but then again, Kane is a cancer in the locker room before...
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Old 11-21-2017, 08:56 AM   #188
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Buffalo is a mess, and any decent forwards they have, are tainted somehow.

Kane - Doosh nozzle, do you really want to pay premium for a pending UFA rental with serious character issues?

O'Reilly - Awesome versatile player, would be a great add but would also cost a premium price and is overpaid by about $1.5 million which would throw our cap situation out of whack. Get them to retain and the price goes up even further.

Eichel - Really talented young player who plays a very important position. Would cost a fortune to acquire due to age and pedigree, but do you really want to give up what it would take to get him in order to destroy your future cap situation? Seriously, the Sabres ruined this kids value by gifting him an 8 year $80,000,000 deal. He's not even a point per game player and he's going to carry a $10 million cap hit FFS. Talk about bending over and taking it right up the hoop in contract negotiations. The Wizard would have never done that.

Reinhart - Really hasn't shown much to be honest. He's been better than Bennett offensively in their young careers, but would he really be an overall upgrade? I like Bennett's feistiness.

Okposo - Another good, useful player on another terrible, terrible contract. It's like an epidemic down in Buffalo. No wonder they turfed their GM and didn't let him see the rebuild through.



The rest of the forwards there are of no interest to me personally.
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I'm actually a huge proponent of bringing in Kane - who would he replace though? Bennett would have to go but I'm fine with that.
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Price for Eichel would be Gaudreau + Monahan haha.

There's zero chance they trade him.
Eichel is pace for 20 goals and 67 points.

A career high 24 goals and 57 points (0.93 ppg)

Starting next year he will carry a $10 million cap hit. That's the kicker in a cap world.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:03 AM   #191
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I'm actually a huge proponent of bringing in Kane - who would he replace though? Bennett would have to go but I'm fine with that.
Bennett for a pending UFA?

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I'm actually a huge proponent of bringing in Kane - who would he replace though? Bennett would have to go but I'm fine with that.
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Edit: I thought I saw Backlund a post before and misread yours. My bad. Still not interested.

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Bennett for a pending UFA?

Yah Bennett, you know the guy who's going to be the Flames biggest draft bust, yup him.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:10 AM   #194
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Price for Eichel would be Gaudreau + Monahan haha.

There's zero chance they trade him.
Agree he is not being moved but that price you state is laughable.

Eichel has been decent in his career but is still more hype than reality.

Monahan and Gaudreau are proven first line players on a playoff team in the midst of career seasons.

That’s like saying the price for Stamkos in 2012 would have been Kane and Stowe’s which would be laughable.
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Sure yeah our best two-way centreman for a one dimensional winger.
While I agree with the main point, there's some stuff about this sentence that just doesn't ring true.
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While I agree with the main point, there's some stuff about this sentence that just doesn't ring true.
Yeah I ####ed up.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:13 AM   #197
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Bennett for Kane is not crazy. Really depends on who Bennett is. If it's a 35 point third liner then the flames make out like bandits.
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Even if Bennett's upside is gritty 3rd line winger who scores 35 points it's still a robbery to trade him for Kane because it's just 5 or 6 months of Kane.

In recent years the price for a decent rental is late 1st and B prospect.

Since the Flames have no 1st you wonder if the Sabres might covet one of the NHL ready prospects in Stockton who are tearing it up like Mangiapane in lieu of a 1st?
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Bandits until they can't re-sign Kane and give up that 35 point third liner with growth potential for a rental player.
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