Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[TheIronMaiden]

You'd be hard pressed to meet a youth pastor that doesn't come off as a kid ####er.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by Yoho

When it ends up being true like most of the conspiracy theories have, make sure you still defend him.

LOL I assume we are still waiting of examples for this?

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

You don't even need to go to the US to find that nonsense.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1661479482262278146


In fact, you may be surprised to know that many of the new "UCP" believe in the same nonsense.

Anything not from Theo Fleury? I wouldn’t accept anything he says as reliable.

[Fuzz]

Sorry, are you looknig for a reasonable person with a brain that has also said they think grooming is going on? The people saying this are the crazy ones, so all the "info" comes from misinformation sources.

Uhm, here?
https://www.rebelnews.com/tags/stop_classroom_grooming

And here's a specific example:

“I’m sorry to say but you could not pay me to sponsor anything to do with child grooming tranny’s [sic].

“Please keep these sick people away from the children of this community, you should be disgusted with yourselves.”

He added that he’s sure there would be “some woke organization mentally ill enough to help” the group with their event, but it “isn’t Valbella’s.”

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...-canmore-pride

[The Fisher Account]

I hope that Theo realizes that every dumb tweet and conspiracy theory he posts online makes the likelihood of the HHOF and his # retired just that little bit more out of reach for him

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by The Fisher Account

I hope that Theo realizes that every dumb tweet and conspiracy theory he posts online makes the likelihood of the HHOF and his # retired just that little bit more out of reach for him

I hope we stop giving him an of the attention he is craving. I agree with what you are saying though.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Sorry, are you looknig for a reasonable person with a brain that has also said they think grooming is going on? The people saying this are the crazy ones, so all the "info" comes from misinformation sources.

Uhm, here?
https://www.rebelnews.com/tags/stop_classroom_grooming

And here's a specific example:


https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...-canmore-pride

I guess that is a loaded question. I was just questioning Photons remark about accusations of leftist grooming in the US, that’s all. Wasn’t something I was aware of. But thanks for your response anyways.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by The Fisher Account

I hope that Theo realizes that every dumb tweet and conspiracy theory he posts online makes the likelihood of the HHOF and his # retired just that little bit more out of reach for him

I think he knows that ship has sailed.

[RobotTalk]

The Liberals are running scared after loosing the vote calling for Johnston to resign.

Parliament to be prorogued next week (or shortly thereafter) so they can try and reset the narrative next fall.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by The Fisher Account

I hope that Theo realizes that every dumb tweet and conspiracy theory he posts online makes the likelihood of the HHOF and his # retired just that little bit more out of reach for him

I assume he's counting on it, it allows him to reman a "victim" of the woke lefty something something

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Probably his NDA with the 15 year old girl at the academy that also forced his resignation mid semester and court proceedings which were staid after the agreement was signed and her family was paid out.

I mean, if there was court proceedings, there should be public record of same. Have we seen a Statement of Claim?

No person has ever went to the court house and searched the school or Trudeau?

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Bonded

The funny part about the left being groomers rhetoric from the right is that some Churches are a breeding ground for it.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...d-sexual-abuse

It's all projection.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Probably his NDA with the 15 year old girl at the academy that also forced his resignation mid semester and court proceedings which were staid after the agreement was signed and her family was paid out.

While I'm sure it'd never actually come to it, you do realize that people have been sued for defamation for posting things less explosive than this (see Brian Burke), right?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Goriders

Probably his NDA with the 15 year old girl at the academy that also forced his resignation mid semester and court proceedings which were staid after the agreement was signed and her family was paid out.

Show your work.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Show your work.

I had honestly never heard this claim before reading it here.

So i started looking around.

This says it happened

https://buffalochronicle.com/2019/10...rey-departure/

This says it didn't.

https://www.logically.ai/factchecks/library/7734988b

Between the two, the second one gets all the weight from me.

Looks like another twitter/internet rumor gone out of control.

There is more than ample evidence to suggest Trudeau is both corrupt, incompatant and a complete hypocrite to ever need to make nasty stuff like this up.

Move along on this silly narrative.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Zero.

I'm not so sure. He has already insinuated in the HoC that Trudeau only won because of Chinese interference, and he's doing a lot of groundwork on the daily to go into the next election with Canadians doubting the legitimacy of Liberal wins. That message is also helped out by O'Toole saying he thinks the Conservatives lost as many as 9 ridings last time because of interference.

Canada's not as far gone as the US was to have something like a Jan 6th event, but he is strategically calling into question the legitimacy of the last Liberal victory and planting seeds that Liberal candidates in ridings across the country will be benificaries of outside interference acting against Canada's interests while Conservatives will be victims of that interference. I don't think it's farfetched at all that if he loses in the next election he will lean into the fear he has been cultivating and go with the narrative that the conservatives were hurt by foreign interference and the government formed from the election is illegitimate or even some sort of puppet of foreign interests that isn't working for Canadians.

Hopefully he changes tack before the next election, but considering he's refusing to even view information about possible interference and corruption because it might affect his ability to stay on the political attack I think he sees leaning into that kind of stuff and increasing fear and doubt as his path forward. Maybe he moderates his message for a federal election, but I doubt he stops the dog whistles for believers of those ideas. Add on to it that he's playing up online conspiracy theories about pedophilia in the HoC to make implied accusations of statutory rape against Trudeau and I don't think he should be expected to act graciously should he lose.

It's a different context and a different approach, but it looks like we're seeing lessons learned from US politics being applied in Canada.

[shotinthebacklund]

in a vote from parliament, the majority vote (all MP's for , all liberal MP's against) to recuse David Johnson as Special rapporteur. He has issued a statement however that hes not going to leave until told so by Trudeau. Sounds pretty dubious. Ethics be damned.
I would bet its pretty much 100% they get prorogued before this comes to pass.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

in a vote from parliament, the majority vote (all MP's for , all liberal MP's against) to recuse David Johnson as Special rapporteur. He has issued a statement however that hes not going to leave until told so by Trudeau. Sounds pretty dubious. Ethics be damned.
I would bet its pretty much 100% they get prorogued before this comes to pass.

What's dubious is the ability of a parliament to vote to make an appointed official "recuse". Recusal is voluntary. And there are obvious problems with independent appointments being at the whim of parliamentary votes.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

What's dubious is the ability of a parliament to vote to make an appointed official "recuse". Recusal is voluntary. And there are obvious problems with independent appointments being at the whim of parliamentary votes.

What should have been done instead of a vote?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

in a vote from parliament, the majority vote (all MP's for , all liberal MP's against) to recuse David Johnson as Special rapporteur. He has issued a statement however that hes not going to leave until told so by Trudeau. Sounds pretty dubious. Ethics be damned.
I would bet its pretty much 100% they get prorogued before this comes to pass.

If Trudeau was to prorogue parliament I wonder if that would cause Singh to reconsider the supply and confidence agreement?