American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

No, I don't believe anyone really deserves to die. I don't believe in the death penalty. I'd rather see criminals in prison, even Putin.

Finally

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

That’s great. But that wasn’t the question.

Do you think the CEO deserved a bullet? Yes or no.

I don't think that he deserved a bullet. I think that he deserved to be lead to the gallows, and publicly executed while people cheered. Please do not make this ###### into a martyr, or anyone like him.

The best thing that we could do as a society, would be to stop putting psychopaths, sociopaths and narcissists into positions of power.

I'm sorry if my answer wasn't soft and woke enough for you. Cuddle your worry sock.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

I don't think that he deserved a bullet. I think that he deserved to be lead to the gallows, and publicly executed while people cheered. Please do not make this ###### into a martyr, or anyone like him.

The best thing that we could do as a society, would be to stop putting psychopaths, sociopaths and narcissists into positions of power.

I'm sorry if my answer wasn't soft and woke enough for you. Cuddle your worry sock.

That’s very cruel.

I’m hurt.


I do think you are wrong though. I do not believe this guy should have been killed because of his job.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

That’s very cruel.

I’m hurt.


I do think you are wrong though. I do not believe this guy should have been killed because of his job.

How he performed his job. He basically weaponized it and maimed and killed a lot of people. The insurance game as a whole needs to be rethought.

[TherapyforGlencross]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

That’s very cruel.

I’m hurt.


I do think you are wrong though. I do not believe this guy should have been killed because of his job.

What is your opinion on the firm employing predatory business behaviours?

Luigi Mangione will forever be known as a martyr.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

How he performed his job. He basically weaponized it and maimed and killed a lot of people. The insurance game as a whole needs to be rethought.

Is no insurance better? Is that what you mean by ‘rethink the whole insurance game’?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

What is your opinion on the firm employing predatory business behaviours?

Luigi Mangione will forever be known as a martyr.

The senior executives deserve to be shot down in the street.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

The senior executives deserve to be shot down in the street.

Tar and feathers and pilloried in the Town Square has always been more effective.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Locke

Tar and feathers and pilloried in the Town Square has always been more effective.

Too much effort.

a 9 mill pill much faster less messy

[ResAlien]

It is interesting how merely modifying the way people are killed makes their comeuppance more palatable to some than others. Invade a country with gun and tanks? "Kill em all and let god sort them out! The only good Russian is a dead Russian!" Kill thousands with the stroke of a pen from behind a desk? "Oh why can't we be civil about our business leaders? We need to respect societal norms "

The banality of evil indeed.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

It is interesting how merely modifying the way people are killed makes their comeuppance more palatable to some than others. Invade a country with gun and tanks? "Kill em all and let god sort them out! The only good Russian is a dead Russian!" Kill thousands with the stroke of a pen from behind a desk? "Oh why can't we be civil about our business leaders? We need to respect societal norms "

The banality of evil indeed.

No I'm reborn, I'm on board

Let God sort it out

[SebC]

Originally Posted by GGG

Do you have other suggestions? The current 8% profit could be eliminated entirely and put toward claims and it would increase spending on claims 12.5%. That doesn’t appear to hit the target you are looking for. Assuming rejected and accepted claims cost the same amounts it would get you to a 56% acceptance rate.

You're making a pretty big assumption that those denied claims aren't eventually overturned (making the expenses the same or higher due to not addressing health concerns in a timely manner) and if they're not overturned, that they don't lead to other problems that the company then has to pay for.

Also if leadership knows that they are killing people to offer lower premiums they are far more culpable than the clients who likely don't know better or might have the choice made for them by their employer.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Is no insurance better? Is that what you mean by ‘rethink the whole insurance game’?

How about as outside the box thinking, make it a tax free non profit industry. A zero sum game. That would also remove the influence of insurance from Healthcare, and lobbying groups.

[KelVarnsen]

Kids getting shot at school = no reaction
A CEO getting shot = OMG YOU GUYS

[Locke]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Kids getting shot at school = no reaction
A CEO getting shot = OMG YOU GUYS

Hey! Children are largely useless and easy to get more of whereas CEOs are highly trained, educated and valuable and difficult to replace.

It makes perfect sense!

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Is no insurance better? Is that what you mean by ‘rethink the whole insurance game’?

Does the existence of insurance make healthcare as a whole more expensive?

I think it might. If you have less dollars chasing the services does price come down?

In which case the answer to above is yes there should be no insurance. People pay for what they need but people can only afford what they can afford.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Kids getting shot at school = no reaction
A CEO getting shot = OMG YOU GUYS

I suppose the difference is there aren’t people cheering the deaths of the children. So people don’t have to counter those silly arguments because they don’t exist.

[Old Yeller]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

It is interesting how merely modifying the way people are killed makes their comeuppance more palatable to some than others. Invade a country with gun and tanks? "Kill em all and let god sort them out! The only good Russian is a dead Russian!" Kill thousands with the stroke of a pen from behind a desk? "Oh why can't we be civil about our business leaders? We need to respect societal norms "

The banality of evil indeed.

"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a God" -- Jean Rostand, 1938

[Red Potato Standing By]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

Kids getting shot at school = no reaction
A CEO getting shot = OMG YOU GUYS

No school shootings get thoughts and prayers… rich guys get the outrage.( hopefully green text isn’t needed)

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Red Potato Standing By

No school shootings get thoughts and prayers… rich guys get the outrage.( hopefully green text isn’t needed)

That this shooting didn’t trigger a gun control discussion suggests a lower degree of outrage vs kids getting shot.