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Old 09-16-2020, 09:34 AM   #41
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Dumba NTC kicks in next season. Firming things up to make a move.
Make the move first and keep your flexibility? As people are pointing out, it's not shaping up to be a player's market when it comes to negotiating salaries.
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Old 09-16-2020, 10:50 AM   #42
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So he's 3 years younger, smaller, less physical, better defensively, better offensively, and actually a completely different person than Hamonic?
I feel like I am giving a remedial class in player comparisons.

Brodin and Hamonic have identical roles and styles in their hockey careers. A some what knowledgeable hockey fan that is involved enough to put out their opinions on a public forum would say:

Yes I can see that the closest thing that the Flames have had over the last 3 years is Hamonic. Maybe Brodin is a touch better but they serve pretty much the identical role. Brodin has had more accomplished partner in Dumba but Hanifin is not that bad.

They both rank the same on their team and are most responsible for stopping scoring chance than creating them.

Over the last 3 years that Hamonic was a Flame this is how they compare statistically:

stat - hamonic - brodin
games - 193 - 224
goals - 11 - 12
assists - 31 - 55
pts - 42 - 67
ppg - .22 - .30
shots - 318 - 291
shots/gm - 1.65 - 1.30
+/- - +9 - +23
TOI - 20:53 - 21:12
hits - 166 - 136
hits/game - .86 - .61
blk shots - 401 - 386
blk sh / game - 2.08 - 1.72
PP TOI - .07 - :28
PK TOI/gm - 2:54 - 2:11
SAT% - 51.8 - 49
USAT% - 51.4 - 50.3
OZ% - 49.4 - 46.2

They both have the least OZ% on their teams are near the top of PK and near the Bottom of PP

They both are top shot blockers on their teams and the lowest scoring of the significant d-men.


The wacky professor made yet another invalid assumption. I would be shocked if Hamonic signs for more than a 3x3 and likely less.

I think that the Wild paid way too much for a solid player that does not any specific elite skill above what a journeyman like Forbort can bring.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:05 AM   #43
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From Eric Francis:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1305933955623919616



Do we agree that based on the comparison of the two, that Brodie would command more than Brodin on the UFA market?
Francis is like an Oiler fan, "more scoring stats so he must be a better player" mentality. Brodie is good but Brodin is better and younger.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:35 AM   #44
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Make the move first and keep your flexibility? As people are pointing out, it's not shaping up to be a player's market when it comes to negotiating salaries.
When next season starts, while Brodin still has a year left, Dumba’s NTC kicks in. How does waiting a few weeks to sign Brodin after trading Dumba offer them additional flexibility?
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:38 AM   #45
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I feel like I am giving a remedial class in player comparisons.

Brodin and Hamonic have identical roles and styles in their hockey careers. A some what knowledgeable hockey fan that is involved enough to put out their opinions on a public forum would say:
You must have a lot of friends.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:39 AM   #46
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I don't read Francis's tweet as suggesting Brodie will be paid more than Brodin but that the contract increases Brodie's worth because it shifts the overall market for d-men.
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