[Rumour] UPD: Gustafsson plans to head to UFA unless Flames up their offer

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Yup Flames replace Hamonic internally quite easily with Andersson but I don’t see a clear Brodie replacement. Ideally Valimaki is the guy but who knows he hasn’t played in a long time. They need to definitely add one Dman to this roster over the summer

they better hurry

[Cheese]

He wasnt/isn't going to be the difference between winning or losing a Cup. Didn't bring anything we can't replace internally or via UFA for less dollars.

[Braden]

Not upset to hear this, just hope news with forbort not interestes follows aswell. Would rather not upgrade that pick to a 3rd

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Good. Waste of a pick.

Rental player.

If Treliving did nothing at the deadline people would be pissed. He solidified the blueline without giving up a pick in the first 2 rounds.

[Dragomir]

At what point do we realize that Treliving is simply not a good GM?

[AC]

Originally Posted by Dragomir

At what point do we realize that Treliving is simply not a good GM?

Because you want Gustafsson re-signed?

[btimbit]

I'd love to being him back but not if he's looking for huge money

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by AC

Because you want Gustafsson re-signed?

because trading a 3rd round pick or him was a bad trade.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

because trading a 3rd round pick or him was a bad trade.

I don't mind it as a rental trade heading into the playoffs where he seemed to significantly improve the PP. Things didn't work out of course, but I get it.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by AC

I don't mind it as a rental trade heading into the playoffs where he seemed to significantly improve the PP. Things didn't work out of course, but I get it.

Did he really improve it though? Honest question, I don't know.

Like, 4 extra goals?

[Harry Lime]

In my mind, I'm banking on Hanifin/Andersson to take the next step into being a first pairing. After that a Giordano/Kylington pair, because I'm optimistic about Kylington, and think that he could become Brodie-esque. Valimaki on the bottom pair just needs a grizzled vet to show him the ropes. Gustafsson or Barrie don't fill that role very well.

[dino7c]

It was certainly a fair-good value trade compared to the other deals on deadline day...some of you are just out for blood on everything. Flames PP was much better with him in the lineup.

1 team is gonna win the cup, all the other deadline deals where bad? With the injuries they Flames had to acquire a couple Dmen.

All this being said I wouldn't bring him back unless its a bargain

[AC]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Did he really improve it though? Honest question, I don't know.

Like, 4 extra goals?

Prior to the trade, the Flames had 18th best PP at 19.9% in the regular season.

After the trade, the Flames had the 2nd best PP in the rest of the regular season at 35.7%

In the playoffs: 28.6% PP (also 2nd best).

[MrMike]

I think he would have worked out much better if we never had the stoppage. More time to get the power play going and get some experience playing with the new guys.

[Mass_nerder]

To those who view this as a bad trade: would there have been a level of success in the playoffs that would have made it palatable? Or is this a bad trade even if we made it to the 2nd-3rd round and he put up 15-20 points?

It looks bad losing a 3rd for what we got out of him, but I think a big part of that is colored by the shortened season and lack of playoffs results.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by AC

Prior to the trade, the Flames had 18th best PP at 19.9% in the regular season.

After the trade, the Flames had the 2nd best PP in the rest of the regular season at 35.7%

In the playoffs: 28.6% PP (also 2nd best).

Wow, that's pretty amazing

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by AC

Prior to the trade, the Flames had 18th best PP at 19.9% in the regular season.

After the trade, the Flames had the 2nd best PP in the rest of the regular season at 35.7%

In the playoffs: 28.6% PP (also 2nd best).

Well, that suddenly makes me troubled about the fact that Gustaffson likely isn't coming back... seemed like the powerplay was pretty much the only time the Flames were generating scoring chances for the last part of the season and the playoffs.

[AC]

Hard to measure how much of a direct impact he had of course, but the coaches also shuffled the makeup of the 2 PP units as a result of his addition. I'm not smart enough to figure out those advanced stats.

Gio moved down to QB the 2nd PP, and Dube moved up which seemed like a big change as well. But moving Gio down was obviously as a result of slotting Gustafsson into PP1. Perhaps Andersson in that spot (or Barrie?) next year produces similar depth and allows Gio to QB PP2 effectively.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by AC

Prior to the trade, the Flames had 18th best PP at 19.9% in the regular season.

After the trade, the Flames had the 2nd best PP in the rest of the regular season at 35.7%

In the playoffs: 28.6% PP (also 2nd best).

So I just had a look at this:

Ward took over the Flames on November 25th.

Between November 25th and the February 24th trade deadline, the Flames had the 6th best PP% in the league at 23.7

After the trade the flames played 7 and were first in the league at 41%

Prior to Ward taking over, the Flames were 23rd in the league at 15.5%

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

To those who view this as a bad trade: would there have been a level of success in the playoffs that would have made it palatable? Or is this a bad trade even if we made it to the 2nd-3rd round and he put up 15-20 points?

It looks bad losing a 3rd for what we got out of him, but I think a big part of that is colored by the shortened season and lack of playoffs results.

Playoff success makes anything worth it.