10-20-2021, 09:12 AM
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#662
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Originally Posted by corporatejay
CP 100% leans left. In the informal poll gondek had like 90% of the vote yet she won with 45%. Where are the 1/3 of CP voters who voted Farkas?
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They are too embarrassed to come out with it. Also why only 2% of them post in the AB Political thread.
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10-20-2021, 09:13 AM
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#663
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I am a pragmatist, but voted conservative my entire voting life. But the idea has become tainted these days. Trump and Republicans, the Scheer conservatives being influenced by them, then the cherry on top Kenny UCP and the pandemic response. The O'Toole conservatives were palatable, but they suffered from being associated with the UCP, Scheer and, well, conservatism.
I'll go out on a limb and say many former conservatives in Canada are now centrist, and conservatives who have stayed conservatives view that as leftist.
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10-20-2021, 09:38 AM
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#664
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
This is why you’re not allowed to post like the rest of us! Now, it’s 8:30 AM and your late for coffee and a newspaper at the A&W in Northland Mall. Hurry along now!
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One day you’ll be joining us at Cottonhead Court.
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10-20-2021, 09:41 AM
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#665
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I am a pragmatist, but voted conservative my entire voting life. But the idea has become tainted these days. Trump and Republicans, the Scheer conservatives being influenced by them, then the cherry on top Kenny UCP and the pandemic response. The O'Toole conservatives were palatable, but they suffered from being associated with the UCP, Scheer and, well, conservatism.
I'll go out on a limb and say many former conservatives in Canada are now centrist, and conservatives who have stayed conservatives view that as leftist.
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They really need an all-star like Nenshi to lead the charge. He can 100% defeat Blackface Mr. Dressup Surfer dude!
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10-20-2021, 09:48 AM
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#666
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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I'd say Alberta's provincial NDP party is now more closer positioned to where Lougheed conservatives were back in the day, and parties like the UCP are now further right than ever. I'm not sure this journey further right for conservatism is going to be a good thing for them in the long run, especially with the socio-economic and environmental challenges currently facing humanity over the next several decades. "Progressive" is now the word for the centre; the conservatives don't own it anymore.
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10-20-2021, 09:51 AM
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#667
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
They really need an all-star like Nenshi to lead the charge. He can 100% defeat Blackface Mr. Dressup Surfer dude!
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Nenshi wouldn't run for the CPC leadership -- and just as importantly, he wouldn't win anyway; the conservative base hates "Spendshi". If he ever chooses to run for federal office, it will most likely be for the Liberal Party.
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10-20-2021, 09:56 AM
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#668
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
Nenshi wouldn't run for the CPC leadership -- and just as importantly, he wouldn't win anyway; the conservative base hates "Spendshi". If he ever chooses to run for federal office, it will most likely be for the Liberal Party.
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Well that "conservative base" can eff off and make their own Wildrose Reform Party.
He legit wins every riding in the GTA against Trudeau and Singh.
His major problem will be in Quebec.
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10-20-2021, 09:59 AM
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#669
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Posted the 6 millionth post!
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Nenshi at the helm of the federal conservative party would make me consider voting for them. His progressiveness would actually allow that party to compete on a contemporary platform that might actually be digestible. He also wouldn't allow this continuous winking to the alt-right that the CPC has loved to do in recent years.
Personally I hope he runs for Premier.
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10-20-2021, 10:00 AM
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#670
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Location: Springbank
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Just dropping in to say I’m pretty pleased with RockyView finally turfing most of the clique that was running things for so many years.
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10-20-2021, 10:01 AM
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#671
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Nenshi at the helm of the federal conservative party would make me consider voting for them. His progressiveness would actually allow that party to compete on a contemporary platform that might actually be digestible. He also wouldn't allow this continuous winking to the alt-right that the CPC has loved to do in recent years.
Personally I hope he runs for Premier.
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gosh darn it.. i guess it is wishful thinking. Nenshi as Premier would be more impactful and better for us in Alberta.
but but but.. why would he do part of his pressers in French the past few years??! Oh Nenshi you are such a tease! lol
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10-20-2021, 10:31 AM
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#672
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Posted the 6 millionth post!
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
gosh darn it.. i guess it is wishful thinking. Nenshi as Premier would be more impactful and better for us in Alberta.
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We need competent leadership that can ask hard questions and respect both the urban and rural scenarios that exist, even with the large population divisions between them. Additionally, I think Nenshi is a much better consensus builder than the Farkas or the Nickels of the world, who have proven very little of that at the municipal level.
One thing is for sure - the next Premier can't be a dictatorial ideologue. We've had enough of that since 2019 and it's become quickly insufferable and damaging to our province.
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10-20-2021, 10:49 AM
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#673
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Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by Slava
Well the world has moved toward ESG (Environmental, Social and Governance) Investing. The money is there, no question.
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I feel like ESG has become such a buzzword, that's it's lost all material meaning. Everyone now just uses it as part of their marketing material to make themselves look good.
It's funny though when you look at supposed ESG-focused Index funds (such as https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/quote/ESG/holdings?p=ESG), they are basically just made up of large-cap tech companies like Facebook and Amazon. Yes a company selling mostly disposable junk, treating workers like slave-like cogs, and putting everyone else out of business, is the epitome of responsible business.
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10-20-2021, 11:02 AM
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#674
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Table 5
I feel like ESG has become such a buzzword, that's it's lost all material meaning. Everyone now just uses it as part of their marketing material to make themselves look good.
It's funny though when you look at supposed ESG-focused Index funds (such as https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/quote/ESG/holdings?p=ESG), they are basically just made up of large-cap tech companies like Facebook and Amazon. Yes a company selling mostly disposable junk, treating workers like slave-like cogs, and putting everyone else out of business, is the epitome of responsible business.
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I don't think that this is the thread for this, but you're not wrong. There are some solid ESG mandates out there, and some PMs doing good work in that area. There is also a lot of green-washing though, and standardization is rather difficult. One of the complicating factors is that there are varying approaches to these issues. For example, if you want to focus on the environmental angle, are you investing in the terrible company that will make strides to improve, or the company that is already doing all the environmental things? That's a super high-level example, but it obviously is going to make your mandate entirely different.
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10-20-2021, 11:06 AM
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#675
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Agree, it's a complicated and somewhat convoluted subject. But yeah, a discussion probably more appropriate for another thread.
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10-20-2021, 11:13 AM
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#676
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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I'm going to take this election as another data point in my theory that Alberta conservatives are the best political party in terms of politics in North America. When there are no parties on the ballot you are all left wing ninnies like the rest of us in Canadian cities.
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10-20-2021, 11:19 AM
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#677
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evil of fart
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I'd love to see an ESG thread. I don't know enough to start one, but would love to learn more about it if one of you guys kicks it off.
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10-20-2021, 11:35 AM
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#678
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Join Date: Jun 2017
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I have just been going over all the councilor elects to see what they are like.
I wonder how effective Dan McLean will be as a councilor.. Did anyone get a chance to talk to him during the campaign..
He seem like we was part of that take back city hall group.
I also got a bit of a chuckle on his website.
Under fiscal responsibility
- Wasteful and untimely Olympic bid
Under about
- My crowning achievement was winning the bid to supply over 250 golf and utility vehicles for the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver.
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10-20-2021, 11:41 AM
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#679
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Not sure which one yet, but I foresee McLean being either the Joey Mags or the Farkas of this next city council.
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10-20-2021, 12:31 PM
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#680
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Originally Posted by CPK80
I have just been going over all the councilor elects to see what they are like.
I wonder how effective Dan McLean will be as a councilor.. Did anyone get a chance to talk to him during the campaign..
He seem like we was part of that take back city hall group.
I also got a bit of a chuckle on his website.
Under fiscal responsibility
- Wasteful and untimely Olympic bid
Under about
- My crowning achievement was winning the bid to supply over 250 golf and utility vehicles for the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver.
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He’s a full on Farkian. I’m betting on him for worst councillor.
I have zero hope he becomes a Demong type who is an effective right of Center representative for his ward.
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