Off Season Trade rumours thread - Brodie, Frolik, Stone etc. Only

[Harry Lime]

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Dube
Tkachuk - Monahan - Bennett
Mangiapane - Backlund - Czarnik
Lucic - Ryan - Jankowski
Quine

Giordano - Andersson
Hanifin - Hamonic
Valimaki - Stone
Kylington

Rittich
Talbot

Im kind of alright starting the season like that, with Brodie and Frolik sold for whatever.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Dube
Tkachuk - Monahan - Bennett
Mangiapane - Backlund - Czarnik
Lucic - Ryan - Jankowski
Quine

Giordano - Andersson
Hanifin - Hamonic
Valimaki - Stone
Kylington

Rittich
Talbot

Im kind of alright starting the season like that, with Brodie and Frolik sold for whatever.

Really? Because that RW depth chart is laughably bad. One way or another the Flames need to add a legit top 6 player.

[dammage79]

No one is taking Lindholm off the top line unless its from an outside team. Especially now with one less RW. Not a single player has earned the right to supplant Lindholm on the top line. and even if your arguement is to break it up to find greater scoring balance, you're not guaranteeing anything when it comes to other players find even a fraction of chemistry.

One saving grace is Backlund/Lindholm working together with Tkachuk as Backs and Lindholm were quite useful together on the PK.

Anywho, we need an offense upgrade on Frolik. Hopefully Trelving can do that. Get this poop Neal/Lucic trade out of his system and hit a home run with the rest of his honey do list.

[Heavy Jack]

Detroit could be a trade partner for Brodie but nothing they’d be willing to part with screams top 6 RW.

I’d be interested in Brodie++ for Gallagher from Montreal who would be a mega pain in the ass playing alongside Tkachuk but Montreal needs a LD more than a RD.

Anaheim has brutal RD depth atm, something around Brodie/Silverberg swap? A bigger deal for Rakell??

It will be interesting to see who Treliving targets now that he has his physical deterrent in Lucic on the team and slotted correctly in the lineup to boot.

[camm13]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

When was the last time a player turned around their career in Edmonton? I have extreme doubts that Neal will magically turn it around in the suckhole. Much better chance that Lucic shakes off a little bit of suck getting out of there. Add the fact that he will actually punch someone (unlike neal) and it could be a net benefit.

Alex Chiasson...

[stang]

Originally Posted by camm13

Alex Chiasson...

Maroon before?

[Roof-Daddy]

So now what?

Still Frolik for picks to clear cap and Brodie for a top 6 forward?

I'm shocked Frolik hasn't been traded yet.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

So now what?

Still Frolik for picks to clear cap and Brodie for a top 6 forward?

I'm shocked Frolik hasn't been traded yet.

I think that's the plan. Market is still frozen though. The RFA's are holding things up.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

So now what?

Still Frolik for picks to clear cap and Brodie for a top 6 forward?

I'm shocked Frolik hasn't been traded yet.

These are the moves that need to happen. Get a winger for one of the top 2 lines and get rid of Frolik without taking NHL salary back.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

So now what?

Still Frolik for picks to clear cap and Brodie for a top 6 forward?

I'm shocked Frolik hasn't been traded yet.

Im wondering if they havent changed their mind on that now as the natural RW depth on this club is abysmal at best after yesterdays transaction.

Also, and somewhat related, this team is DESPERATELY short on RH shots..though neither Frolik nor Neal made a difference there.

Ryan, Czarnik, and Lindholm is it I believe.

[bigrangy]

all that needs to be done now is to move hamonic/stone and the cap issues should be fine.


would be nice to add another potential 2/3 rw option if one could fit, hamonic for roslovic would be perfect


i think jagr is still an FA!

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Im wondering if they havent changed their mind on that now as the natural RW depth on this club is abysmal at best after yesterdays transaction.

Also, and somewhat related, this team is DESPERATELY short on RH shots..though neither Frolik nor Neal made a difference there.

Ryan, Czarnik, and Lindholm is it I believe.

I highly doubt they have reconsidered and I don’t understand why the trade yesterday changed that opinion? Did you think Neal was going to bounce back and all of a sudden look better than Lindholm on the top line or not look like absolute crap with Backlund and Tkachuk?

Frolik to the Devils for a late pick makes sense for both teams. Gives the Flames $14M in cap space. Still not enough to get all 4 RFA’s signed imo so I think a Stone buyout is coming which pushes the cap space closer to 16.5M. (8.5M for Tkachuk, 2.75M for Bennett, 3.25M for Rittich, $850k for Mangipane. Trade Brodie for a ~$5M winger.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think that's the plan. Market is still frozen though. The RFA's are holding things up.

I think things will open up after arbitration cases are settled

Quite a few teams that can use the buyout window to create cap space

Stone for us for sure. Can see Montreal Buffalo NYR winnipeg and maybe Nashville buying players out and picking up players from capped out teams. Montreal (alzner) and buffalo (sobotka) could do some damage with additional cap space.

[CanadaMatt]

Given the lower than expected Salary cap, Frolik’s 4+ million cap hit might be a bit of a liability. I don’t think it’ll be that easy to move to be honest.

Not sure I want to move him, do we have a replacement?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Given the lower than expected Salary cap, Frolik’s 4+ million cap hit might be a bit of a liability. I don’t think it’ll be that easy to move to be honest.

Not sure I want to move him, do we have a replacement?

The Devils have $18M in cap space and are trying to win now. They have 2 massive extensions to work out with Hall and Hischer next summer so they would probably welcome a 1 year term right now. Trading Frolik for cap space and buying out Stone frees up the space to keep our RFA’s.

Brodie or Hamonic can be used in a deal for a Frolik replacement.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by CanadaMatt

Given the lower than expected Salary cap, Frolik’s 4+ million cap hit might be a bit of a liability. I don’t think it’ll be that easy to move to be honest.

Not sure I want to move him, do we have a replacement?

Agreed. We want to move Frolik but there are other teams to move cap as well. Are there more attractive cap dumps than Frolik out there? Probably. Time to do this was before the draft but now we are stuck. May be able to retain or take a lesser salary back but return at this point will be less than ideal.

[Heavy Jack]

I still think a team that feels they missed out on a Dman (like Detroit and Anaheim) might be willing to throw a 6th or a 7th at Stone; even if we had to eat some salary I think we should be able to avoid a buyout on him.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The Devils have $18M in cap space and are trying to win now. They have 2 massive extensions to work out with Hall and Hischer next summer so they would probably welcome a 1 year term right now. Trading Frolik for cap space and buying out Stone frees up the space to keep our RFA’s.

Brodie or Hamonic can be used in a deal for a Frolik replacement.

At this point teams are probably asking for our younger and cheaper d. What kind of value can we get for Brodie at this point when cap dollars are tight? LA isn’t probably interested in Brodie for Toffoli at this point as Brodie will be past his prime by the time they will be competitive.

Hard to see a fit out there at this point. Treliving is going to earn his dough this summer to make the team better and be cap compliant.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The Devils have $18M in cap space and are trying to win now. They have 2 massive extensions to work out with Hall and Hischer next summer so they would probably welcome a 1 year term right now. Trading Frolik for cap space and buying out Stone frees up the space to keep our RFA’s.

Brodie or Hamonic can be used in a deal for a Frolik replacement.

Why not just sign a guy and not give up any assets?

Lots of good players out there still. Lots of teams with worse toxic assets willing to give you much better assets in return if you take their cap headaches.

Frilik for a 6th or gusev and Clarkson for a 4th? What's a better way to allocate 5 million bucks if you're the devils.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I still think a team that feels they missed out on a Dman (like Detroit and Anaheim) might be willing to throw a 6th or a 7th at Stone; even if we had to eat some salary I think we should be able to avoid a buyout on him.

I doubt it. There are cheaper 7th dman available on the market. I think Stone is insurance if Brodie is traded. Will be a bunch of young d and having Stone as a 7th dman makes a bit of sense. If Brodie is not traded then Stone will be bought out.